No i was using assualt for him flicking the cigerette out of his hand not touching the guy at all with the guy fearing he was going to get hit Indeed the taking the cigarette and burning him is battery i wasnt speaking about the burning incident to begin with. I was only speaking of the knocking of the cig out of his hands and into his lap and dirty looks. I never said anything bout him kicking him.
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No i was using assualt for him flicking the cigerette out of his hand not touching the guy at all with the guy fearing he was going to get hit
If he did it really quickly (which isn't that difficult to do), there probably isn't reasonable apprehension of being hit... especially if the guys hand was close to his lap and he was looking up.
However, flicking the cig is battery, even if he doesn't touch anything else.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
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for the sake of all arguments the two parties are both gulity of battery. Wb for the burning and the other guy for flicking his cig at him while exiting the bus. But wb is also guilty of assualt for making the other guy fear that he was about to hit him. To me it is blantantly apparent wb wasnt afraid this guy was going to hit him so therfore the other guy isnt guilty of assualt. Either way you look at it the situation became explosive and it didnt have to.When you find yourself arguing with an idiot, you might want to rethink who the idiot really is.
"It can't rain all the time"-Eric Draven
Being dyslexic is hard work. I don't even try anymore.
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Btw, WB, where they the MX(whatever) 71 earphones you had?
I'm sorry Mrs Tubes but I don't really care about your semantic masturbation and definition tapestry here. I've been there, done that for years and ultimately it's just a chess game of bull**** vs. perversity, with all the importance to ones life you'd normally attach to a few pieces of wood. As far as I'm concerned I don't feel that what I did was wrong and I'm not a person without a conscience.
So you can call it whatever the hell you want but tbh I don't really give a damn."I work in IT so I'd be buggered without a computer" - Words of wisdom from Provost Harrison
"You can be wrong AND jewish" - Wiglaf :love:
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for the sake of all arguments the two parties are both gulity of battery. Wb for the burning and the other guy for flicking his cig at him while exiting the bus. But wb is also guilty of assualt for making the other guy fear that he was about to hit him. To me it is blantantly apparent wb wasnt afraid this guy was going to hit him so therfore the other guy isnt guilty of assualt.
Actually you may have it backwards. If the guy flicked his cigarette at WB, then he is liable for assault (reasonable apprehension of a battery). If it hit WB, then it's a battery as well. If WB flicked the cig quickly, making it a surprise that the cig was in his lap (which I've seen happen before, mind... flicking a cig quick so that the smoker doesn't know what the Hell happened), then the other guy didn't reasonably apprehend a battery, but was battered.
Btw, the legal standard is reasonable apprehension. NOT being scared (fear can either mean being scared or a reasonable apprehension, depending on how you use it.. ie, I can fear that a fly will land me). Being scared is never, never, never a standard for assault. If a 90 lb weakling throws a punch at a 200 lb, muscle bound guy, and misses, that's still assault.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
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Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
Whaleboy:
I really suggest you stop while you are ahead."The Christian way has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found to be hard and left untried" - GK Chesterton.
"The most obvious predicition about the future is that it will be mostly like the past" - Alain de Botton
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Originally posted by Whaleboy
You're probably one of those people who defends kids who cause a nuisance around people's otherwise peaceful homes, and says that it's "assault" to give them a clip round the ear .The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil Finland
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Originally posted by Whaleboy
I know not my liege. They look like slugs and they're pretty damn quiet from the outside, especially on a bus with a 12-cylinder engine firing.
I'm sorry Mrs Tubes but I don't really care about your semantic masturbation and definition tapestry here. I've been there, done that for years and ultimately it's just a chess game of bull**** vs. perversity, with all the importance to ones life you'd normally attach to a few pieces of wood. As far as I'm concerned I don't feel that what I did was wrong and I'm not a person without a conscience.
So you can call it whatever the hell you want but tbh I don't really give a damn.When you find yourself arguing with an idiot, you might want to rethink who the idiot really is.
"It can't rain all the time"-Eric Draven
Being dyslexic is hard work. I don't even try anymore.
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Originally posted by Ted Striker
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT???????????????? ???
I THOUGHT FADED GLORY HAD DIED????????????????
WTF???????????????????????????????????????
I told them at the ****ing washington polymeet that I thought FG hadn't died.
****ing spot on, *****es.12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
Stadtluft Macht Frei
Killing it is the new killing it
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I suspect he's had a little to drink. With KH, that's generally the rule, not the exception."You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran
Eschewing silly games since December 4, 2005
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Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
You're really up on things in this forum, aren't you KH?When you find yourself arguing with an idiot, you might want to rethink who the idiot really is.
"It can't rain all the time"-Eric Draven
Being dyslexic is hard work. I don't even try anymore.
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I was one of the most against Faded Glory. Then he died, and I was all like "WTF?!" and felt bad.
If this is the real Faded Glory...and you're still alive (assumably not ZOMBIEFIED!) then, all I have to say is...**** you
...with a smile, of course..."I predict your ignore will rival Ben's" - Ecofarm
^ The Poly equivalent of:
"I hope you can see this 'cause I'm [flipping you off] as hard as I can" - Ignignokt the Mooninite
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