That's one smelly pizza pie.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by GePap
A true pizza is baked in a brick oven, nas very thin crusts, and uses real mozzarella, not shredded cheese.

Anything that uses processed shredded cheese and is cooked in a gas oven is no longer highest quality pizza. That CA put all sorts of things on their pizza to hide the poor quaslity of the sauce, or the cheese, or the bland crust is hardly a sign of quality.

The casserole Chicagoans call pizza is tasty, but ain't true pizza.

Please.

I'd compare the quality of the sauce and ingredients of most high end California pizzas to any east coast pizza. We're not talking about mass market pizza hut crap we're talking about real gourmet pizza for people who want something better then the greezy fast food sold at most pizza places.

[GePap]

So you are comparing gourmet end pizza to that you get from a corner store in order to "prove" that CA is better?

Wow.

So, it should be obvious that since the Maybach is such a superior car to the Neon, that German automobiles leave all American cars in the dust

"california pizza" is simply a thin crust pizza with all sort of "fancy" things on it. How imaginative. That says nothing thought about the quality of the underlying pizza.

I consider great Pizza that pizza that is a joy to eat without any toppings, just the crust, sauce, and cheese.

And in that respect you don't beat simple brick oven thin crust pizza of the type indegenous to NYC.

[Boris Godunov]

GePap is spot-on.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by GePap
So you are comparing gourmet end pizza to that you get from a corner store in order to "prove" that CA is better?

Wow.

So, it should be obvious that since the Maybach is such a superior car to the Neon, that German automobiles leave all American cars in the dust

"california pizza" is simply a thin crust pizza with all sort of "fancy" things on it. How imaginative. That says nothing thought about the quality of the underlying pizza.

I consider great Pizza that pizza that is a joy to eat without any toppings, just the crust, sauce, and cheese.

And in that respect you don't beat simple brick oven thin crust pizza of the type indegenous to NYC.

My nearest pizza place is a California Pizza Kitchen which is mass market chain which I find to be acceptable but not great. Still their pizzas are good and not to expensive plus they do use wood fired ovens along with real cheese and high quality ingredients then you'll find in virtually every pizza place out there. I can think of some other places I like better but CPK is in the same price range as the others you are comparing.

In the end it comes down to personal tastes. Some people love the Chicago or New York style where they put more and more and more and more stuff on the pizza until it is over loaded with junk and you can't taste any of the individual ingredients. Others of us like simpler pizzas with higher quality & more flavorful ingredients which can actually be savored and individualy enjoyed. You like your way and I like my way.

[GePap]

I think one of the easiest ways to ruin a pizza is bad sauce, specfially overly sweet sauce. I dislike Papa John's pizza because their sauce is too sweet.

Dominos has OK sauce, but their crust is too bready and tastes terrible and they use really bad cheese. Making them 'THE WORST PIZZA EVER"

There are a couple of CPK's in NYC but I have never gone there.

[DerSchwarzfalke]

The quality of pizza is inversely proportional to proximity to New York City. I get outstanding pizza in Connecticut, quality pies in Philadelphia, and absolute **** in Virginia.

To the point, there is no beating New York or New Haven pizza. It is simply the best there is in the world.

[Gamecube64]

Yes, Dominos is horrible. Horrible cheese, sauce, crust, and toppings. Uber-disgusting. I don't get how people will order that shtick around here when we have 3 other pizza places, all better than dominos, and one of them is even a local place!

[mactbone]

I can't understand NY pizza. That flat, greasy, "fold it in half" stuff is ****e. Chicago style is good but the best pizzas I ever had were at these two pizza places in Northern Indiana. Both were started by Italian immigrants and the one guy even made his own sausage and grew the veggies for salads. They had a good amount of crust on the edge but average for the pie as a whole. The cheese would be browned and sometimes that crust would have crunchy air bubbles. They also had strombolis/calzones/whatever you want to call a doughy exterior with pizza stuff on the inside.

[GePap]

True NY Pizza does not even come in slices. The top pizza places (were you get a regular pie for about $12) sell only whole pies.

I agree the most common pizza in NY is not great, but still better than your average crap elsewhere.

[Kuciwalker]

Papa Johns

Papa Johns with feces on it

[Odin]

Here in Fargo we have a joint called Duane's House of Pizza. much better than Pizza Hut or Domino's

Dominos has OK sauce, but their crust is too bready and tastes terrible and they use really bad cheese. Making them 'THE WORST PIZZA EVER"

[Dinner]

I do like New York style pizza but I often find it to much for me. There's a place called Bronx's Pizza here in San Diego which has damn good New York style pizza. It's located down on Washington Street in Little Italy which is still the kind of place you find old Italian guys playing chess and eating gelato. Some of the best ethnic delis in town are located in that neighborhood as well. Filippi's down the block in Little Italy makes as real as you can get Scilians style pies which are nice for a change.

My favorate chain to get a pizza though has to be Sammy's Wood Fired California Pizza. The place just has some damn fine and truly California style pizza pies which shame the bigger chains like CPK. Notable runners up include Pizza Port Brewery and Oggi's Pizza and Brewing Co though I go there more for the fresh locally made beer then for the pies.

[Lancer]

Spreading **** on a left coast pizza won't ruin the taste. The same cannot be said of a true NY pie.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Lancer


Spreading **** on a left coast pizza won't ruin the taste. The same cannot be said of a true NY pie.

Except the **** was on a Texan pizza.

[monolith94]

Not really familiar with 'californian' pizza, although I'm sceptical concerning the quality. Chicago pizza sucks, though - I went to pizzeria due, and was dramatically dissapointed. The crust was bland and flavorless, and the filling was just... not that impressive at all.