l'état est une classe!

[Dinner]

This spambot sure does enjoy bumping 5+ year old threads.

[Elok]

I miss those days where everyone was still in college and eager to debate this...

Why? It's just dignifying the clumsy attempts of various nineteenth-century hacks to put a science-y veneer on their political prejudices. Similar to the way eugenics attempted to put a science-y veneer on racial prejudices (and Freudian psychoanalysis succeeded in putting a science-y veneer on old men's sexual perversions).

[Kidlicious]

In a democracy the state is a function of society, not a certain class.

[Fake Boris]

Why? It's just dignifying the clumsy attempts of various nineteenth-century hacks to put a science-y veneer on their political prejudices. Similar to the way eugenics attempted to put a science-y veneer on racial prejudices (and Freudian psychoanalysis succeeded in putting a science-y veneer on old men's sexual perversions).

How do you suggest that we debate politics then?

[Elok]

Admitting that it's just your opinion and any statistics you cite will only have very limited applicability? Well, no, that's not going to happen, but nobody on here has the energy to spin out a massive pile of hooey like Marx's, so really just saying "be original" will cover it.

[Kidlicious]

Well, no, that's not going to happen, but nobody on here has the energy to spin out a massive pile of hooey like Marx's, so really just saying "be original" will cover it.

I is old now. :sad:

I wish I could go back to college.