l'état est une classe!

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
We could do it on a Communist Party of Apolyton website. I wonder how much effort it would be to create a forum site.

It varies. Forum software is a limited form of CMS (content management system), so you have quite a large degree of freedom what you want to do with it.

You may also want to look at wiki (you can restrict who can make changes) and other forms of CMS.

[Dracon II]

I was thinking of using wiki as well. Is it secure?

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


You studied under Daniel Bell? Was that in his Trotskyist or neo-conservative phase?

it was in 1978. He was definitely no longer a Trotskyite (see above about his focusing me away from Andersen and towards Weber) but he wasnt quite a neo-con. Or rather, he was all that the neo-cons SHOULD have been. All the grad students were straight forward Sociology dept Marxists, BTW, which led to some disconnect between lectures and section meetings. And it was a large class, its not like I really got to know Bell. Only Sociology class I took. (econ was firmly neo classical, and Poli Sci was a mix of Social Dems, pluralists, for policy realists, and Straussians)

[Dracon II]

Damn it... I hate it how other countries have such notable academics to study under and Australia has nothing

My Marxist lecturers couldn't explain Marxism better than Chegitz!!

.... which is partly responsible for the original point of this thread.

At any rate, I wanna get out of this country after honours and study under some people I've actually heard of. I'm thinking of heading to York in Toronto... Leo Panitch teaches a course there on Globalization and the State.

[Nostromo]

In Toronto, they also have the kiwi version of Rorty: Lee Churman. He started out as an epistemologist, now he's doing the greeks. I'm not sure you want to go there.

[Dracon II]

Originally posted by nostromo
In Toronto, they also have the kiwi version of Rorty: Lee Churman. He started out as an epistemologist, now he's doing the greeks. I'm not sure you want to go there.

Well my field of choice is political science... but I am interested in philosophy in general. Not confident enough to do it as a degree though.

Rorty is a latter day American pragmatist no? I find that branch of philosophy rather interesting... I've come about Rorty through reading about post-structuralism. It's interesting to note that Pierce's semiotic theory over 100 years ago foreshadowed french post-structuralism's theory of semiosis.

[Nostromo]

You mean you don't know who's Lee Churman? A hint: he hangs out here.

Originally posted by Dracon II

Rorty is a latter day American pragmatist no? I find that branch of philosophy rather interesting... I've come about Rorty through reading about post-structuralism. It's interesting to note that Pierce's semiotic theory over 100 years ago foreshadowed french post-structuralism's theory of semiosis.

Yes, Rorty is an American pragmatist. But he isn't much of a philosopher, he's more of a commentator. I read some post-structuralists like Deleuze, Derrida and Foucault for a while, then I grew tired of it. I don't know about semiosis, but I do know that a major part of their ideas about signs come from the linguist Ferdinand de Saussure. de Saussure was their Frege.

[Nostromo]

dp

[Dracon II]

Ah... Agathon!

[Dracon II]

Post-structuralists are the black sheep of the Saussure family. They reject the idea that signs refer to reality and say that they refer completely to each other. Which means that signification and representation is nothing but part of an endless unfolding of signs (semiosis I believe... I'm not an expert in this stuff). Pierce had a similar idea... he believed that signs linked to other signs in an endless chain.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Dracon II
I was thinking of using wiki as well. Is it secure?

As secure as you make your server to be, AFAIK.

In other words, they don't have any independent vulerabilities. So as long as the underlying system is secure, you're fine.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Dracon II
I was reading an excerpt from his book The Coming of the Post-Industrial Society. Fairly interesting stuff... he certainly got it right when he said that information technology would become increasingly important within developed economies. I'm not sure if post-industrial society necessarily makes Marx obselete... but I'd say Marxism would need an upgrade, so to speak.

I'm reading a book titled, CyberMarx. I'll let you know what I think of it. I'm on the chapter laying out Bell's arguments.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Dracon II
Post-structuralists are the black sheep of the Saussure family. They reject the idea that signs refer to reality and say that they refer completely to each other.

Which means that ultimately, nothing has any meaning. Why, then, bother to change the world, let alone even coming to grips with the problem of how?

Althusser (French commie in the CP) was the father of Structuralism, btw.

[Nostromo]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara

Althusser (French commie in the CP) was the father of Structuralism, btw.

Altusser was maybe a father of structuralism, not the father. Structuralism originates from linguistics, not only from the work of de Saussure, but also from de Moscow and Prague schools. Then structuralism was imported in other disciplines, in psychoanalysis by Lacan, in marxism by Althusser, in Anthropology by Lévi-Strauss... But what I read from Althusser and Lacan was either a load of baloney or giberish. Lévi-Strauss seems pretty solid, though.

[Fake Boris]

I miss those days where everyone was still in college and eager to debate this...