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  • Let's Laugh At Tom Friedman (and Shrub too)

    The cheery-faced cheerleader is adopting an increasingly desperate tone. He's my nomination for fathead of the year. I can't think of anyone who has been consistently stupider about foreign policy who isn't a member of the Bush administration.

    I hate to say I told you so, but the glum-faced cheeky chappie had it coming. Double the American boots on the ground? What have you been smoking? Can you say "draft"?

    Iraq is FUBARed.

    [VADER]: This will be a war long remembered. It has seen the end of American credibility and it will soon see the end of Tom Friedman[/VADER].

    Let's Talk About Iraq

    By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN
    Ever since Iraq's remarkable election, the country has been descending deeper and deeper into violence. But no one in Washington wants to talk about it. Conservatives don't want to talk about it because, with a few exceptions, they think their job is just to applaud whatever the Bush team does. Liberals don't want to talk about Iraq because, with a few exceptions, they thought the war was wrong and deep down don't want the Bush team to succeed. As a result, Iraq is drifting sideways and the whole burden is being carried by our military. The rest of the country has gone shopping, which seems to suit Karl Rove just fine.

    Well, we need to talk about Iraq. This is no time to give up - this is still winnable - but it is time to ask: What is our strategy? This question is urgent because Iraq is inching toward a dangerous tipping point - the point where the key communities begin to invest more energy in preparing their own militias for a scramble for power - when everything falls apart, rather than investing their energies in making the hard compromises within and between their communities to build a unified, democratizing Iraq.

    Our core problem in Iraq remains Donald Rumsfeld's disastrous decision - endorsed by President Bush - to invade Iraq on the cheap. From the day the looting started, it has been obvious that we did not have enough troops there. We have never fully controlled the terrain. Almost every problem we face in Iraq today - the rise of ethnic militias, the weakness of the economy, the shortages of gas and electricity, the kidnappings, the flight of middle-class professionals - flows from not having gone into Iraq with the Powell Doctrine of overwhelming force.

    Yes, yes, I know we are training Iraqi soldiers by the battalions, but I don't think this is the key. Who is training the insurgent-fascists? Nobody. And yet they are doing daily damage to U.S. and Iraqi forces. Training is overrated, in my book. Where you have motivated officers and soldiers, you have an army punching above its weight. Where you don't have motivated officers and soldiers, you have an army punching a clock.

    Where do you get motivated officers and soldiers? That can come only from an Iraqi leader and government that are seen as representing all the country's main factions. So far the Iraqi political class has been a disappointment. The Kurds have been great. But the Sunni leaders have been shortsighted at best and malicious at worst, fantasizing that they are going to make a comeback to power through terror. As for the Shiites, their spiritual leader, Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, has been a positive force on the religious side, but he has no political analog. No Shiite Hamid Karzai has emerged.

    "We have no galvanizing figure right now," observed Kanan Makiya, the Iraqi historian who heads the Iraq Memory Foundation. "Sistani's counterpart on the democratic front has not emerged. Certainly, the Americans made many mistakes, but at this stage less and less can be blamed on them. The burden is on Iraqis. And we still have not risen to the magnitude of the opportunity before us."

    I still don't know if a self-sustaining, united and democratizing Iraq is possible. I still believe it is a vital U.S. interest to find out. But the only way to find out is to create a secure environment. It is very hard for moderate, unifying, national leaders to emerge in a cauldron of violence.

    Maybe it is too late, but before we give up on Iraq, why not actually try to do it right? Double the American boots on the ground and redouble the diplomatic effort to bring in those Sunnis who want to be part of the process and fight to the death those who don't. As Stanford's Larry Diamond, author of an important new book on the Iraq war, "Squandered Victory," puts it, we need "a bold mobilizing strategy" right now. That means the new Iraqi government, the U.S. and the U.N. teaming up to widen the political arena in Iraq, energizing the constitution-writing process and developing a communications-diplomatic strategy that puts our bloodthirsty enemies on the defensive rather than us. The Bush team has been weak in all these areas. For weeks now, we haven't even had ambassadors in Iraq, Afghanistan or Jordan.

    We've already paid a huge price for the Rumsfeld Doctrine - "Just enough troops to lose." Calling for more troops now, I know, is the last thing anyone wants to hear. But we are fooling ourselves to think that a decent, normal, forward-looking Iraqi politics or army is going to emerge from a totally insecure environment, where you can feel safe only with your own tribe.


    Only feebs vote.

  • #2
    more stupid drivel (the article, not from you, Aggie)
    A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by MrFun
      more stupid drivel (the article, not from you, Aggie)
      I'm crushed. I spent hours composing my drivel.
      Only feebs vote.

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      • #4
        You can't please Agathon. The article basically bashes Bush's strategy and still, Aggie is displeased .
        “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
        - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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        • #5
          I agree with Aggie in that calling for such a drastic draft as called for by the article's author is lunacy.
          A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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          • #6
            I'm not familiar with column writers in general. What was this guy's views up until now?

            Was he in full support of the situation?

            I'm glad people are finally listening to people like McCain and demanding accountability from Rumsfeld.

            His famous apathetic press conference about, "chaos! riots in the streets!" and how he dismissed it is going to go down in history as one of the his embarassing speeches ever.

            That was the time to acknowledge the security situation on the ground and take corrective action. Instead Rumsfeld sold it to us as simply people enjoying their new found freedom.
            We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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            • #7
              Tom Friedman is a lefty, AFAIK.
              I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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              • #8
                So? There are stupid people all along the entire political spectrum, DanS.
                A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                • #9
                  Just answering the questions of those who are not familiar with Friedman. I'm familiar with him.
                  I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by DanS
                    Tom Friedman is a lefty, AFAIK.
                    Not really. Kind of pro-globalization/pro-capitalism/corporate cheerleader type, (conveyed with very annoying rhetoric generally) but relatively moderate (at least by american standards) on foreign policy and social stuff.
                    Stop Quoting Ben

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                    • #11
                      I think Friedman can be considered a Clintonian Democrat. He's VERY strongly free trade (probably more than Clinton), but domestically he isn't for dismantling the welfare state. And he seems to think, as the article says, that Bush handled the Iraq war horribly.
                      “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                      - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                        You can't please Agathon. The article basically bashes Bush's strategy and still, Aggie is displeased .
                        Until I am simultaneously sipping a broon ale, watching Newcastle win the league and cup double, and am receiving a tag team blow job from Natalie Portman and Alicia Silverstone I will remain displeased. Hmph!
                        Only feebs vote.

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                        • #13
                          For those who don't know Friedman's view on the war.

                          Friedman always supported the war in Iraq from the viewpoint of an experiment to bring democracy to the ME. He never liked the whole WMD derbate because he saw it as a distraction form the real goal.

                          He has always been rosy about Iraq, but I think from relatively early on critical of the lack of troops and so forth, though his annalysis is rarely hugely original.

                          Currently he is on an India ifx, and excoriating the US educational system for not creating enough engineers and such to compete with India and China.
                          If you don't like reality, change it! me
                          "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
                          "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
                          "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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                          • #14
                            He's a fatuous oaf. He shouldn't be writing for The New York Times. He should be somewhere more suited to fatuous oafs, like the ACS Off Topic Forum.
                            Only feebs vote.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Agathon
                              He's a fatuous oaf. He shouldn't be writing for The New York Times. He should be somewhere more suited to fatuous oafs, like the ACS Off Topic Forum.
                              I think his nome the guerre is LoTM
                              If you don't like reality, change it! me
                              "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
                              "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
                              "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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