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  • #16
    The only real liberal show there is on PBS is Now, which is certainly no partisan mouthpiece. And that has just been cut in half, and supplemented afterwards with Bowtie Boy (who is no Bill Moyers, much less a David Broncoccio) afterwards. And there has been the McLaughlin Group on PBS for ages.

    But calling the mainstay of its news programming (the Newshour, Washington Week, etc.) mouthpieces for the "democratic wing of the democratic party" is eminently dishonest.
    "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
    -Bokonon

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    • #17
      The only real liberal show there is on PBS is Now
      Let's examine this claim. In the Life, which is playing this evening, has the following description...

      This June, actor, comedian, and Air America Radio talk show host JANEANE GAROFALO hosts In the Life's LGBT Pride Special "Setting the Record Straight." With PSAs from actor, comedian ROSIE O'DONNELL and young adult author ALEX SANCHEZ (Rainbow High, Rainbow Boys).
      I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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      • #18
        I'm going to have to call you out Oerdin.

        If PBS truelly is independant, why are the republicans so intent on cutting funding? The truth is PBS has a heavy liberal bias. Why should they be funding biased shows that don't tell both sides of the story?

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        • #19
          Charlie Rose (left, but tolerable)


          Why does Charlie Rose count as "left," and Jim Lehrer "non-partisan?"

          the Tavis Smiley Show probably has a left-wing slant in its guest selection, but the show is pretty centrist overall (and again, he's not a mouthpiece).
          "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
          -Bokonon

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          • #20
            I know that NPR already gets most of its funding from donations and the sale of its programs to local stations. As a % of overall spending how much dose this cut represent?


            As for PBS's political leaning, yes is is LIBERAL and I like that because by definition ONLY a liberal is capable of being impartial.

            From Dictionary.com

            lib·er·al ( P ) Pronunciation Key (lbr-l, lbrl)
            adj.

            Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry.
            Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded.
            Of, relating to, or characteristic of liberalism.
            Liberal Of, designating, or characteristic of a political party founded on or associated with principles of social and political liberalism, especially in Great Britain, Canada, and the United States.

            Tending to give freely; generous: a liberal benefactor.
            Generous in amount; ample: a liberal serving of potatoes.
            Not strict or literal; loose or approximate: a liberal translation.
            Of, relating to, or based on the traditional arts and sciences of a college or university curriculum: a liberal education.

            Archaic. Permissible or appropriate for a person of free birth; befitting a lady or gentleman.
            Obsolete. Morally unrestrained; licentious.

            n.
            A person with liberal ideas or opinions.
            Liberal A member of a Liberal political party.



            Don't confuse Liberal with Socialist or left-wing, many liberals are socialist (any many prefer other goverment policies). The oposite of a Liberal is a conservative who is by definition close-minded, most conservatives in the US are right-wing (aka hawkish dickensien robber-barons) but any close-minded person regardless of belif is a conservative in my book. Thus only a Liberal has any buisness reporting anything.
            Last edited by Impaler[WrG]; June 14, 2005, 15:16.
            Companions the creator seeks, not corpses, not herds and believers. Fellow creators, the creator seeks - those who write new values on new tablets. Companions the creator seeks, and fellow harvesters; for everything about him is ripe for the harvest. - Thus spoke Zarathustra, Fredrick Nietzsche

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            • #21
              I've never seen "In My Life" before... It must be a DC thing.
              "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
              -Bokonon

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              • #22
                Why does Charlie Rose count as "left," and Jim Lehrer "non-partisan?"
                Charlie Rose definitely counts as almost exclusively left-wing, due to his guest selection. I think it's a great program, and that makes up for it for me. But there's no mistaking the bias.

                You could watch the Newshour for years and have no clue about Jim Lehrer's politics (I have done so). That's the difference.
                I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                • #23
                  Charlie Rose is a conservative, though his guests are frequently liberals. The News Hour is hosted by a conservative.

                  The reason why PBS is considered partisan is because it tells the truth in an age of lies. Since the GOP are the biggest liars in American politics, telling the truth is more likely to seem "left-wing."

                  I think, however, cutting government funding would be a good thing. Then the GOP can no longer threaten PBS and NPR with removing funding.
                  Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by DanS
                    Here's tonight's lineup for my public TV channel...

                    Newshour (non-partisan)
                    NOVA (non-partisan)
                    Clear the Skies (non-partisan)
                    Frontline (sometimes center-right, sometimes center-left)
                    Charlie Rose (left, but tolerable)
                    Tavis Smiley (left)
                    Nightly Business Report (non-partisan)
                    In the Life (far-left)
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                    That's my local station and here's the line up.

                    12:00am
                    Desert Speaks - science

                    12:30am
                    Great Lakes Gardener - non political

                    1:00am
                    Piano Guy - nonpolitical

                    1:30am
                    Low Carb Cookworks - nonpolitical

                    2:00am
                    Nature: Violent Hawaii - science/nonpolitical

                    3:00am
                    First Light - never seens it since I don't watch tv at 3am.

                    4:00am
                    Steve Holy in Concert - nonpolitical

                    5:00am
                    Soundstage - non political

                    6:00am
                    Piano Guy - once again nonpolitical

                    6:30am
                    Low Carb Cookworks - nonpolitical

                    7:00am
                    Nature: Violent Hawaii - np

                    8:00am
                    First Light - no idea

                    9:00am
                    Steve Holy in Concert - np

                    10:00am
                    Soundstage - np

                    11:00am
                    Unforgivable Blackness - history program, nonpolitical

                    1:00pm
                    American Family - right leaning family values show

                    2:00pm
                    Piano Guy - nonpolitical

                    2:30pm
                    Low Carb Cookworks- nonpolitical

                    3:00pm
                    Nature: Violent Hawaii - science/nonpolitical

                    4:00pm
                    First Light - still don't know what this is.

                    5:00pm
                    Jakers! - kids programing/nonpolirical

                    5:30pm
                    Outdoor Wisconsin - np

                    6:00pm
                    Great Lakes Gardener - nonpolitical

                    6:30pm
                    Full Focus - right wing show about local economy and local politicians.

                    7:00pm
                    Desert Speaks - nonpolitical

                    7:30pm
                    Smart Travels - nonpolitical

                    8:00pm
                    American Family - right wing family values show.

                    9:00pm
                    Piano Guy - nonpolitical

                    9:30pm
                    Low Carb Cookworks - nonpolitical

                    10:00pm
                    Nature: Violent Hawaii -nonpolitical

                    11:00pm
                    Full Focus right wing politics at a local level

                    11:30pm
                    Smart Travels - nonpolitical

                    So we have 29 program slots 27 of which are nonpolitical and 2 are right wing. There are no left wing programs so it is clear you are full of crap with your claims that PBS only represents the democratic wing of the democratic party. There is no surprise there though.
                    Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                    • #25
                      Charlie Rose is a conservative.


                      Well, at least I know where y'all are coming from.
                      I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                      • #26
                        I call bull****. Rose's guest selection isn't "almost exclusively left."


                        If PBS truelly is independant, why are the republicans so intent on cutting funding?


                        Because the Newshour spends its time on the real issues, rather than Micheal Jackson.
                        "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                        -Bokonon

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Ramo
                          I call bull****. Rose's guest selection isn't "almost exclusively left."


                          If PBS truelly is independant, why are the republicans so intent on cutting funding?


                          Because the Newshour spends its time on the real issues, rather than Micheal Jackson.
                          why would republicans care about Michael Jackson?

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                          • #28
                            He's not a real issue.
                            "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                            -Bokonon

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                            • #29
                              Nobody from the GOP dislikes the Newshour. Don't know where you're getting your info.
                              I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                              • #30
                                PBS sucks. It shouldn't recieve federal funding. They would be better off sucking up to Corporate America.
                                I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                                - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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