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Um... iPod Mini and Zen Micro ARE hard drive players! 
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“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
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The Zen Touch vs the regular Ipod.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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Why are you arguing about that? About 5 points above that comparison post Our_Man said he was deciding between the iPod Mini and Zen Micro.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)Comment
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