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Asher , it's no use arguing with Aggie right about now . He lost , and he knows it , and there is nothing he can do about it , and is currently in denial . Just goes to show - you can't reason a man out of a position he hasn't reasoned himself into in the first place .
So if they fail in one section of their market, a part that wasn't a) exceptionally profitable, and b) they stopped investing much into, and remain quite profitable with everything else... I still fail to see how IBM is the loser.
They lose credibility. They said they could get it done, and they didn't. I guess they don't care, or that will be their public response, but they were singing a different tune 2 years ago.
Oh and Apple now has a 76% of music players. Bye Bye Creative.
Asher , it's no use arguing with Aggie right about now . He lost , and he knows it , and there is nothing he can do about it , and is currently in denial . Just goes to show - you can't reason a man out of a position he hasn't reasoned himself into in the first place
WTF are you talking about? I don't care either way. I'm quite glad that Apple has dumped IBM because IBM failed to do what it promised – namely come up with a reasonable notebook chip. They were supposed to do that and couldn't.
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
Originally posted by Atahualpa
a lot of speculation and nothing concrete...
Good luck with Linux
He's got a degree in Computer Science and has used Linux at work for 4 years, I think he'll be okay.
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
Originally posted by Agathon
It really doesn't matter as far as users are concerned. IBM was a millstone around Apple's neck who couldn't produce the goods.
I guess only Asher could believe that IBM didn't promise Apple a G5 in a notebook, which is what this is really about
When did IBM ever promise a G5 in a notebook?
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"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
I guess only Asher could believe that IBM didn't promise Apple a G5 in a notebook, which is what this is really about. I don't think Apple was pissed off so much about the lack of speed progress, but the notebook thing was the big deal.
Can I have proof that IBM ever promised Apple a notebook chip? IBM, as far as I can tell, only ever said they were working on reducing its heat issue and power consumption.
But good riddance to bad rubbish. Here's hoping Intel can do a better job.
This confuses me even more. Mostly because Intel won't be making PPC chips for Apple, but seems likely to just give them x86 chips with maybe a few extensions, if at all.
So... it's not like Intel's really gaining much, or doing much on their end, either. All told, Intel isn't really a winner, and IBM really isn't a loser.
The only company this change really affects is... Apple.
They lose credibility. They said they could get it done, and they didn't. I guess they don't care, or that will be their public response, but they were singing a different tune 2 years ago.
When did they say they could get it done? Proof, please. Besides, this purported "hit" to IBM's credibility in the chip sector probably won't matter much, so long as they deliver to Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo for the console market... which not only dwarfs the Apple market, but the PC one as well.
As far as the rest of IBM's image, it's doubtful much could tarnish it for a good long while, at least in the services sector, after how much goodwill they garnered up with the whole SCO affair...
When the G5 was first introduced. In any case, do you think Apple would have signed up with them if they hadn't? Don't be daft.
IBM are just lame because they couldn't do it. I guess that the financial impact on IBM will be next to nothing, but they do look a bit daft after their enthusiasm of two years ago.
The only company this change really affects is... Apple.
No kidding. But not as much as people think.
I don't think it will make much difference to Apple in the long run. Most Apple users buy Apple for the OS – that's the main difference. It could run on any sort of chip for all that most users care. I certainly have never really been interested in the hardware wars.
But of course there will be the usual crap prognostications. Next year no-one will care any more.
When the G5 was first introduced. In any case, do you think Apple would have signed up with them if they hadn't? Don't be daft.
I'd like some proof, otherwise, I'll see this as a bald-faced assertion.
No kidding. But not as much as people think.
This coupled with what's above means...
So, pretty much your argument boils down to "IBM sucks because Apple ditched them"?
I don't think it will make much difference to Apple in the long run. Most Apple users buy Apple for the OS – that's the main difference. It could run on any sort of chip for all that most users care. I certainly have never really been interested in the hardware wars.
Frankly, if Apple is smart, it won't do vendor-hardware lock-in. Not doing that will allow it to directly compete with Windows and Linux, with joy going all around to everyone.
Unfortunately, if Apple does do vendor-hardware lock-in, I wouldn't place a lot of money on Apple. Indeed, I wouldn't be surprised if the lock-in schema got hacked and caused Apple hardware to haemorrage money.
Originally posted by Agathon
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Oh and Apple now has a 76% of music players. Bye Bye Creative.
I don't think we'll see hardware makers drop out any time soon. The market is just going to get more competitive not less since many of the big name Japanese companies haven't even weighted in yet (Sony is rushing one to market and expact panasonic to follow shortly). this can only be good news for consumers and bad news for Apple.
In any event Creative makes a better product then Apple but the future is flash chips not hard drives.
Originally posted by Agathon
When the G5 was first introduced. In any case, do you think Apple would have signed up with them if they hadn't? Don't be daft.
IBM are just lame because they couldn't do it. I guess that the financial impact on IBM will be next to nothing, but they do look a bit daft after their enthusiasm of two years ago.
Public enthusiasm is PR.
And I'm not sure why you think IBM couldn't do it -- "wouldn't do it" is more apt. Again, Apple's marketshare is ridiculously small. Apple laptops even moreso.
The G5 exists because IBM developed the PowerPC 970 for low-cost server blades. It also worked as a desktop CPU.
IBM doesn't have a large, profitable market for ultra low-power G5 variants, and Apple's tiny marketshare doesn't warrant the manhours and development resources -- especially given how busy IBM Microelectronics has been recently.
IBM has never promised a G5 notebook chip, and that's a simple fact.
IBM also never promised a 3GHz G5 by summer 2004.
That's all Apple and their legendary poor decision making.
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
Originally posted by Oerdin
I don't think we'll see hardware makers drop out any time soon. The market is just going to get more competitive not less since many of the big name Japanese companies haven't even weighted in yet (Sony is rushing one to market and expact panasonic to follow shortly). this can only be good news for consumers and bad news for Apple.
In any event Creative makes a better product then Apple but the future is flash chips not hard drives.
Creative's sales have also gone up every year, as does their profit.
Not sure where Aggie's "byebye Creative" is coming from.
"The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "
I'd like some proof, otherwise, I'll see this as a bald-faced assertion.
Go look for it yourself. I remember it from two years ago when the G5 was introduced, and it makes sense independently of that.
But if you think I'm going to spend hours trolling the internet to satisfy you, you must be deranged. I couldn't care less whether you believe me or not, and I'm certainly not going to spend any great effort in that cause.
This coupled with what's above means...
So, pretty much your argument boils down to "IBM sucks because Apple ditched them"?
Don't be daft. IBM sucks in this particular case because their performance was subnormal. They made all sorts of big noises two years ago, and never really delivered. I don't really care about the rest of their business, because it doesn't affect me.
Motorola were similarly useless. I hope Apple keeps its options open so that it can switch to AMD if Intel doesn't work out.
Frankly, if Apple is smart, it won't do vendor-hardware lock-in. Not doing that will allow it to directly compete with Windows and Linux, with joy going all around to everyone.
Unfortunately, if Apple does do vendor-hardware lock-in, I wouldn't place a lot of money on Apple. Indeed, I wouldn't be surprised if the lock-in schema got hacked and caused Apple hardware to haemorrage money.
That shows how much you know. Apple won't do it because they tried it before and it didn't work. It would also screw up everything that is good about the mac, since Apple would no longer have tight control over the hardware (which means things don't **** up as much).
Presumably a few people will hack it and install pirate copies of OS X on their PCs. I don't see these as lost sales, just as I don't see downloads of music files as lost sales. That sort of thing will remain a minority sport.
WTF are you talking about? I don't care either way. I'm quite glad that Apple has dumped IBM because IBM failed to do what it promised – namely come up with a reasonable notebook chip. They were supposed to do that and couldn't.
Can I have proof that IBM ever promised Apple a notebook chip? IBM, as far as I can tell, only ever said they were working on reducing its heat issue and power consumption.
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