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  • Pentagon admits Koran kicked, splashed with urine

    By Robert Burns The Associated Press
    Published: Jun 3, 2005

    WASHINGTON (AP) - The Pentagon on Friday released new details about mishandling of the Quran at the Guantanamo Bay prison for terror suspects, confirming that a soldier deliberately kicked the Muslim holy book and that an interrogator stepped on a Quran and was later fired for "a pattern of unacceptable behavior."
    In other confirmed incidents, water balloons thrown by prison guards caused an unspecified number of Qurans to get wet; a guard's urine came through an air vent and splashed on a detainee and his Quran; and in a confirmed but ambiguous case, a two-word obscenity was written in English on the inside cover of a Quran.

    The findings, released after normal business hours Friday evening, are among the results of an investigation last month by Brig. Gen. Jay Hood, the commander of the detention center in Cuba, that was triggered by a Newsweek magazine report - later retracted - that a U.S. soldier had flushed one Guantanamo Bay detainee's Quran down a toilet.

    The story stirred worldwide controversy and the Bush administration blamed it for deadly demonstrations in Afghanistan.

    Hood said in a written statement released Friday evening, along with the new details, that his investigation "revealed a consistent, documented policy of respectful handling of the Quran dating back almost 2 1/2 years."

    Hood said that of nine mishandling cases that were studied in detail by reviewing thousands of pages of written records, five were confirmed to have happened. He could not determine conclusively whether the four others took place.

    In one of those four unconfirmed cases, a detainee in April 2003 complained to FBI and other interrogators that guards "constantly defile the Quran." The detainee alleged that in one instance a female military guard threw a Quran into a bag of wet towels to anger another detainee, and he also alleged that another guard said the Quran belonged in the toilet and that guards were ordered to do these things.

    Hood said he found no other record of this detainee mentioning any Quran mishandling. The detainee has since been released.

    In the most recent confirmed case of urine splashing on a detainee and his Quran, Hood said the complaint was made by a detainee on March 25, 2005. An unidentified guard admitted at the time that "he was at fault," the Hood report said, adding that his supervisor reprimanded him and assigned him to gate guard duty where he had no contact with detainees for the remainder of his assignment at Guantanamo Bay.

    In that case, the guard had left his observation post and went outside to urinate, according to Hood's findings. He urinated near an air vent and the wind blew his urine through the vent into the cell block.

    Hood also said his investigation found 15 cases of detainees mishandling their own Qurans. "These included using a Quran as a pillow, ripping pages out of the Quran, attempting to flush a Quran down the toilet and urinating on the Quran," Hood's report said. It offered no possible explanation for the detainees' motives.

    Last week, Hood disclosed that he had confirmed five cases of mishandling of the Quran, but he refused to provide details. Allegations of Quran desecration at Guantanamo Bay have led to anti-American passions in many Muslim nations, although Pentagon officials have insisted that the problems were relatively minor and that U.S. commanders have gone to great lengths to enable detainees to practice their religion in captivity.

    Hood said last week that he found no credible evidence that a Quran was ever flushed down a toilet. He said a prisoner who was reported to have complained to an FBI agent in 2002 that a military guard threw a Quran in the toilet has since told Hood's investigators that he never witnessed any form of Quran desecration.

    Other prisoners who were returned to their home countries after serving time at Guantanamo Bay as terror suspects have alleged Quran desecration by U.S. guards, and some have said a Quran was placed in a toilet.

    There are about 540 detainees at Guantanamo Bay. Some have been there more than three years without being charged with a crime. Most were captured on the battlefields of Afghanistan in 2001 and 2002 and were sent to Guantanamo Bay in hope of extracting useful intelligence about the al-Qaida terrorist network.

    Both President Bush and Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld have denounced an Amnesty International report that called the U.S. detention center at Guantanamo Bay "the gulag of our time."

    The president told reporters at a press conference on Tuesday that the report by the human-rights group was "absurd."

    On Wednesday, Rumsfeld called the characterization "reprehensible" and said the U.S. military had taken care to ensure that detainees were free to practice their religion. However, he also acknowledged that some detainees had been mistreated, even "grievously" at times.

    AP-ES-06-03-05 2004EDT
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8090656/
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  • #2
    Isn't this a pattern now?

    The Liberal media tell lies about Bush!!! The Rather letter is a fake!!! (but everything it said was true)

    The Liberal media tell lies about Gitmo!!! We never flushed the Koran down the lav!!!! (we did piss on it though)
    Only feebs vote.

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    • #3
      "Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini

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      • #4
        Really, what is the problem ? A bunch of paper is hit by water and so what ?

        Was what was written on that paper the sole remains of something ? No, it was just something that can be bought in any ordinary bookstore.

        No need to make a big fuss about this.
        With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

        Steven Weinberg

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        • #5
          This was sooooo two weeks ago

          The really important News is jacko now!
          "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
          "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
          "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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          • #6
            It's like: "How dare you call us murderers!!! We're rapists!!!"
            Only feebs vote.

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            • #7
              "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
              "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
              "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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              • #8
                that's pretty funny..
                In da butt.
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                • #9
                  He urinated near an air vent and the wind blew his urine through the vent into the cell block.
                  Aren't our guys trained to use the latrine.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by BlackCat
                    Really, what is the problem ? A bunch of paper is hit by water and so what ?

                    Was what was written on that paper the sole remains of something ? No, it was just something that can be bought in any ordinary bookstore.

                    No need to make a big fuss about this.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by BlackCat
                      Really, what is the problem ? A bunch of paper is hit by water and so what ?

                      Was what was written on that paper the sole remains of something ? No, it was just something that can be bought in any ordinary bookstore.

                      No need to make a big fuss about this.
                      * cough * Flag burning * cough *


                      Not that I care 'bout either.
                      Last edited by alva; June 3, 2005, 22:07.
                      Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
                      Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by BlackCat
                        Really, what is the problem ? A bunch of paper is hit by water and so what ?

                        Was what was written on that paper the sole remains of something ? No, it was just something that can be bought in any ordinary bookstore.

                        No need to make a big fuss about this.

                        So glad you don't have a problem with protestors burning the US flag, then.
                        A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                        • #13
                          Do those particular, individual retarded US soldiers in the article think they are helping us with our problem with the Islamic world with their abuse?
                          Last edited by MrFun; June 3, 2005, 22:10.
                          A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by alva


                            * cough * Flag burning * cough *


                            Not that I are 'bout either.
                            Really, what is the difference between burning some cloth and pouring water on paper ?

                            Ouch
                            With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                            Steven Weinberg

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                            • #15
                              This is crazy. Muslims are assassinating each other inside mosques in Iraq, Pakistan, and Afghanistan and the headlines are about this?
                              I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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