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48I'm dutch: yes / pro8.33%4I'm dutch: no / against4.17%2I'm dutch: blank2.08%1I'm german: yes / pro4.17%2I'm german: no / against4.17%2I'm german: blank0.00%0I'm french: yes / pro0.00%0I'm french: no / against0.00%0I'm french: blank0.00%0I'm spanish: yes / pro0.00%0I'm spanish: no / against0.00%0I'm spanish: blank0.00%0I'm britisch: yes / pro2.08%1I'm britisch: no / against10.42%5I'm britisch: blank0.00%0I'm italian: yes / pro0.00%0I'm italian: no / against0.00%0I'm italian: blank0.00%0Other country: yes / pro18.75%9Other country: no / against18.75%9Other country: blank2.08%1I'm not from europe / banana 1 / any other wannabe cool answer: yes / pro6.25%3I'm not from europe / banana 2 / any other wannabe cool answer: no / against14.58%7I'm not from europe / banana 3 / any other wannabe cool answer: blank4.17%2Formerly known as "CyberShy"
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We're voting on it this September, and it'll be the 6th national referendum on EU in which I'm voting. (Previous referenda were in 1972 (I was too young then), 1986, 92, 93, 98 and 2000)
For the first time in those 6 referenda, I'll be voting NO - despite my party's pro-constitution stance.
I'm opposed to the idea of a joint constitution, and I believe the EU has already reached a sufficient stage of political integration between member states without the constitution treaty.
I'm also increasingly wary of the cultural elitists' declared agenda of trying to mold the EU into something it was never intended to be, namely an opposing political entity towards the USA. An agenda which is often boasted, more or less openly, in favour of the constitution treaty in the domestic debate. I'm not having any of that.
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While I know this treaty isn´t perfect I´m voting yes. Because I really don´t see an alternative. A real " US style constitution" couldn´t work properly without totally giving up your own national constitution. That just isn´t possible in Europe, the Brits know it, the French know it and the Dutch with our "grondwet" know it too. We´ll have to take it and work from there.
To others this comprise may be a bunch of diplomatic legalese with some claptrap but i also see people.
*Just edited some bizarre freudian slip of the keyboardSkeptics should forego any thought of convincing the unconvinced that we hold the torch of truth illuminating the darkness. A more modest, realistic, and achievable goal is to encourage the idea that one may be mistaken. Doubt is humbling and constructive; it leads to rational thought in weighing alternatives and fully reexamining options, and it opens unlimited vistas.
Elie A. Shneour Skeptical Inquirer
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Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar
I believe the EU has already reached a sufficient stage of political integration between member states without the constitution treaty.
The EU has become one nation already? I missed the news.
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Originally posted by Pekka
currently - no, after modifications - yes."Spirit merges with matter to sanctify the universe. Matter transcends to return to spirit. The interchangeability of matter and spirit means the starlit magic of the outermost life of our universe becomes the soul-light magic of the innermost life of our self." - Dennis Kucinich, candidate for the U. S. presidency
"That’s the future of the Democratic Party: providing Republicans with a number of cute (but not that bright) comfort women." - Adam Yoshida, Canada's gift to the world
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I would have voted NO*, but after hearing the French ***** and moan about how the whole constitution is an Anglo-Saxon plot to subjugate Europe to free market liberal policies I swung over to the YES camp.
*The whole thing is just too verbose and should be a simple framework.One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.
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