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Originally posted by Ming
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So let the federal government fund it rather than burdening State's by burdening them with the added cost and forcing them to become agents of the federal government. I'm not even convinced it's a good idea to begin with.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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Re: More freedom slips away from our American cousins
There is a lot of stuff in the bill that slipped under the dead of night.Originally posted by MikeH
Unbelievable. How can they just quietly pass that without any fuss?Comment
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I agree. The ID card as such is no problem, but this part doesn't sound good at all.Originally posted by DeathByTheSword
the biggest problem i see here...is that they want to use a system that can read it from a couple of meters away without you knowing...that is sick and so big brother is watching you...The enemy cannot push a button if you disable his hand.Comment
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Remember that few people take intercity buses or trains. A vast number of people take airplanes, for which you already need to present ID. Others rent a car, for which you already need to present ID in the normal course of business and besides which you have to have while drivingYou will have to show your ID to get on a bus or a train?!
I don't know how this slipped through on the supplemental, but I guess that we haven't heard the last of it. What can be done in the dark of night, can be undone in the light of day.
The federal government now requires ID to get into any of its buildings. But I can't see this extended to state or local government buildings by federal government fiat.Last edited by DanS; May 26, 2005, 10:49.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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I don't carry a drivers licence. In fact I'm not sure where mine is, haven't driven for 10 years and have little intention of doing so.Originally posted by Ming
Like I stated in other discussions on having a national Id card... I don't see the problem here. I already carry a drivers license, which has my SS number, Address and picture on it already. I have to validate that info when I get it. This doesn't really change anything. I guess if you are criminal, or illegally in this country, one might consider it a problem...
And don't tell me you've never broken the law because I'm pretty sure you have at some point.Jon Miller: MikeH speaks the truth
Jon Miller: MikeH is a shockingly revolting dolt and a masturbatory urine-reeking sideshow freak whose word is as valuable as an aging cow paddy.
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Originally posted by MikeH
I don't carry a drivers licence. In fact I'm not sure where mine is, haven't driven for 10 years and have little intention of doing so.
And don't tell me you've never broken the law because I'm pretty sure you have at some point.
I think Ming's missing the point between voluntarily carrying some non-governmentally decreed items of identification and being compelled to carry a government issued i.d. card.
If you don't want to carry a driver's licence, then don't. Use public transport- it's healthier. You don't need to buy a photo i.d. card to travel on buses, tubes or trains either- you can pay cash.
You aren't compelled to carry a British passport at all times, or your National Insurance card.
It isn't (yet) against the law to leave one's residence in Great Britain without any form of identification, nor does a police officer have the right to stop you and ask for it without showing due cause.Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.
...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915Comment
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You can still get by just fine in the US without carrying ID even with this law, if you're not going out of town.
I don't have a car and I don't have the need to carry my ID, although I do anyways, because I would forget it when I need it otherwise.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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Originally posted by DanS
You can still get by just fine in the US without carrying ID if you're not going out of town.
But if you travel from the Delaware Soviet to the Kansas Soviet you need to show your travel papers to the security police, yes ?
Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.
...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915Comment
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Not if you walk or bicycle between the two!I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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Originally posted by DanS
Not if you walk or bicycle between the two!
A bicycle ? They have such luxury goods in the People's Republic of Bushdonia ?
Or is this generous aid from Albania ?
Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.
...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915Comment
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Not Soviet, but Soviet Socialist Republic.Originally posted by molly bloom
But if you travel from the Delaware Soviet to the Kansas Soviet you need to show your travel papers to the security police, yes ?
Originally posted by Serb:Please, remind me, how exactly and when exactly, Russia bullied its neighbors?
Originally posted by Ted Striker:Go Serb !
Originally posted by Pekka:If it was possible to capture the essentials of Sepultura in a dildo, I'd attach it to a bicycle and ride it up your azzes.Comment
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OK, you can Segway between the two soviets, if you choose. No ID required.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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Originally posted by Saras
Not Soviet, but Soviet Socialist Republic.
I shortened it to allow for the diminished attention span of Soviet Bushdonians.
A diet of black and white television shows about tractors and potato harvests diminishes their capacity for comprehending phrases with more then averagely lengthy words.Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.
...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915Comment
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it's SSR then. Nevada SSR, New York SSR and so on
Hey! We also had "nu, pogodi!"
Originally posted by Serb:Please, remind me, how exactly and when exactly, Russia bullied its neighbors?
Originally posted by Ted Striker:Go Serb !
Originally posted by Pekka:If it was possible to capture the essentials of Sepultura in a dildo, I'd attach it to a bicycle and ride it up your azzes.Comment
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For conscience' sake, I suggest that the US import more Chinese colour television sets.Originally posted by molly bloom
I shortened it to allow for the diminished attention span of Soviet Bushdonians.
A diet of black and white television shows about tractors and potato harvests diminishes their capacity for comprehending phrases with more then averagely lengthy words.
Statistical anomaly.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.Comment
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