Creationism on the rise in Kans... the Netherlands?!

[Odin]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


Let's just all move to Mars and let the insane people have Earth.

No, lets send all the insane people to Mars, more room for us.

[Kuciwalker]

Mars has the same land area as Earth.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
Mars has the same land area as Earth.

But no breatheable atmosphere nor fresh water.....

[Hueij]

Originally posted by GePap


But no breatheable atmosphere nor fresh water.....

I'm sure that if we send the creationists and intelligent design people there God will provide...

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by GePap
But no breatheable atmosphere nor fresh water.....

Which has nothing to do with the room.

[Hueij]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker


Which has nothing to do with the room.

Yeah, and we all know you are an expert on rooms

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
Your understanding on Kansas is wrong. Evolutionists didn't participate, they boycotted. By doing so, they insured there would be no stamp of scientific legitimacy on it. And that's exactly the impression the media got. So I'd say that's generally the best way to handle such situations.

But the creationist "experts" lost when they were forced to admit that they had never read the materials they were criticizing.

[Spiffor]

It's worrisome that it is even an issue in the Netherlands.

I thought your religionists were sane enough that only an unimportant margin would oppose evolution. If a minister piushes her luck, and pushes the issue, it means the idiots are much more mainstream than I expected.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
But the creationist "experts" lost when they were forced to admit that they had never read the materials they were criticizing.

Some of them are real neanderthals. I present to you William Dembski, a leading light of the Discovery Institute:

I therefore await the day when the hearings are not voluntary but involve subpoenas that compel evolutionists to be deposed and interrogated at length on their views. There are ways for this to happen, and the wheels are in motion (e.g., Congressional hearings over the teaching of biology in federally funded high schools for military kids).

There are a couple of rather violent graphics in the linked article - amusing in a way, and certainly reveals the mentality of Creationists and Mr Dembski in particular.

[MrFun]

Does this mean that because a backwards idea is strong in one part of Europe that we can lump all Europeans together and bash them for stupidity?



The same way that some Europeans do, when one state/one part of United States gets media attention because of a bacwards idea?

[Urban Ranger]

Nah, the US is in a much more advanced stage wrt Creationism. Why, you even had the Scopes Monkey Trial.

[DeathByTheSword]

it is ofcourse a big deal this all...but the entire scienctif and polictial world already said the van der hoeven is bonkers to try and just say this...even her own party...

first she cuts my grand to go to college

then she starts talking about these things....serious get a straightjacket for this woman

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
Nah, the US is in a much more advanced stage wrt Creationism. Why, you even had the Scopes Monkey Trial.

Yes -- in the early 20th century, and in one state.

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger


Some of them are real neanderthals.

I'd prefer the company of Neanderthals to the company of intellectually dishonest Creationists any day.

And to the company of those braying whited sepulchres in the fundamentalist camp.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
Mars has the same land area as Earth.

You're wrong. Mars is about half the size of Earth and thus a much weaker pull of gravity. It can't hold on to much of an atmosphere nor much internal heat so tectonics ran out of steam pretty early in Martian history. That means any standing water on the surface would strip CO2 fron the atmosphere and deposit it as limestone and the planet would rapidly cool as the primary green house gas was removed.