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  • Hell, you'd think slavery would have destroyed the black American family but it took liberalism to do that.


    Get a clue! Slave families were routinely broken up when either one of the parents or their offspring were sold. This was common practice. Also as Gepap already pointed out the high incarceration rate experienced by black men is the leading cause for black families becoming single parent homes.

    People have spent two pages explaining why your OP just doesn't stact up to facts or to reality but you keep repeating the same baseless accusations. You've been listening to Rush to much and your brain is rotting away. Snap out of it before you get sucked into the Nediverse.
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    • . . . . . he just keeps bashing liberals, free-thinking women, and people on welfare in his blissful, ignorant belief that bashing solves problems.
      A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.

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        • The positive thing about this thread is that there is a consensus, it appears, that families are a good thing and should be promoted as a norm for raising children. As Dr. Strangelove said, welfare has opened the door for the poor woman to leave an abusive relationship. But it also has opened the door to welfare as a way of life for far too many.

          What we need to do is to see if there are any fixes that would permit the one but discourage the other.

          From my understanding, there are now time limits for welfare. This would seem to permit its use for a transition, but not for a way of life. Am I wrong in this?
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          • Originally posted by Sikander
            Just because we quit clear cutting doesn't mean that climax forests are right around the corner where today all there is are a sea of stumps. You may be entirely correct, but one can't confidently assert as much based on the reversal of a few policies affecting what is now for whatever reason a very different environment.
            Generous welfare payments were around for all of about 15 years. BY the time Reagan came into power most generous anti-poverty programs were gutted. If 15 years of generous welfare was somehow so terrible as to crush the family, one would think 25 years after of "welfare reform" could have done something.

            The massive encarceration of African American males doesn't really jibe well with the disintegration of the Black family on the timeline. It may not have been welfare that did the deed, but it's a better case than incarceration for most of the period of the decline.
            When did families "collapse"? ie. what do you claim the timeline is?
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            • Originally posted by Ned
              What we need to do is to see if there are any fixes that would permit the one but discourage the other.
              More high wage jobs for idiots Ned. That's the only solution.
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              • Originally posted by Kidicious


                More high wage jobs for idiots Ned. That's the only solution.
                Affirmative action for idiots is your solution?
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                • Originally posted by Ned
                  Affirmative action for idiots is your solution?
                  I'm not saying make them brain surgeons. I'm saying pay them enough to survive on at jobs that don't require much intelligence.
                  I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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                  • Living Wages would be nice
                    Monkey!!!

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                    • Originally posted by Japher
                      Living Wages would be nice
                      Commie.
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                      • but in a total doggie eat dogg sort of way
                        Monkey!!!

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                        • So you like it doggie style?
                          Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                          • what is this thread about?
                            Monkey!!!

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                            • Family relationships
                              With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

                              Steven Weinberg

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                              • Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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