10 most rightist posters on poly

[DarkCloud]

I'll echo Odins statement about McCain being a true conservative. He deserves to be leading the party- not Bush, DeLay, Santorum, etc.

McCain is a man of reality, a man of principle, a man who seeks compromises and represents the entire American people.

[Agathon]

Is there something wrong with the water in Norway?

[MrFun]

Yes, it's being sucked dry by the United States just like we did in Russia recently.

[Drake Tungsten]

Yes, British Empire troops did fight alongside the Japanese against the German forces in China- presumably that's what an Anglo-Japanese Treaty provides for, once war has been declared and there is a common enemy.

The alliance between Britain and Japan required no such thing. It only required that the the uninvolved party come to the aid of the other if they were fighting two or more powers, powers which were usually understood to be France, Germany or Russia. WWI obviously didn't fit this condition, so Japan wasn't required to help Britain.

That being said, it is clear that the British Admirality wanted the Japanese navy to take over the duties of the British navy in the Far East and the Indian Ocean so that British ships could help in the more vital European theater. If you had read the piece I linked to from the Naval War College, you would see that Churchill and others were all to eager to use the Japanese.

Churchill, almost from the day he took the helm as First Lord in October 1911, accelerated the withdrawal of battleships from the Mediterranean and China seas and their redeployment against the growing naval power of Wilhelmine Germany in the North Sea.6 By March 1914, British naval strength in the Far East had decreased from five battleships and an armored cruiser in March 1904 to two battleships, a battle cruiser, and two cruisers.

In March 1914, Churchill, arguing for his policy in the House of Commons, acknowledged that defeat of the main British naval force in European waters would leave a small force of Pacific-based dreadnoughts vulnerable. Any British naval force in Far Eastern waters must inevitably be inferior to the main fleet of a European rival. On the other hand, Churchill pointed out, “two or three ‘Dreadnoughts’” in Australian waters “would be useless the day after the defeat of the British Navy in Home waters.”

This policy produced a growing naval dependence on Britain’s allies. France took up the slack in the Mediterranean, and Japan assumed a correspondingly larger role in the defense of the China Seas.

On 11 August 1914, Churchill, worried by what he considered Grey’s clumsy attempts to prevent Japanese entry into the war, or limit Japanese action once in it, warned the foreign secretary:

I think you are chilling indeed to these people. I can’t see any half way house between having them in and keeping them out. If they are to come in, they may as well be welcomed as comrades. This last telegram [to Japan] is almost hostile. I am afraid I do not understand what is in yr mind on this aspect—tho’ I followed it so clearly till today.

. . . This telegram gives me a shiver. We are all in this together & I only wish to give the fullest effect & support to your main policy. But I am altogether perplexed by the line opened up by these Japanese interchanges.

You may easily give mortal offence—wh will not be forgotten—we are not safe yet—by a long chalk. The storm has yet to burst.

Churchill’s remonstrance helped to alter Grey’s opposition to Japan’s full participation in the war.

http://www.nwc.navy.mil/press/Review/2000/winter/art3-w00.htm

All of this, of course, took place before Japan entered the war...

To say the Japanese joined WWI solely on their own initiative is silly. Yes, they were eager to take the opportunity to expand empire at Germany's expense. Britain was equally eager to have Japan defend its empire, however, and did its best to get Japan involved in the war.

[Sandman]

they're for tradition because tradition WORKS.

This is a conservative belief, not an established fact.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Sandman


This is a conservative belief, not an established fact.

I'll take the 'fact' of today's working society over some wing nut's wonderland any day of the week.

[Kidlicious]

If society worked there wouldn't be people who want to fix it.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Kidicious
If society worked there wouldn't be people who want to fix it.

[notyoueither]

If society didn't work, there would be mobs in the street demanding change.

That does not mean there will not be wing nuts on message boards and elsewhere saying they have some 'fix' for society.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by notyoueither
If society didn't work, there would be mobs in the street demanding change.

You never hear of this things?

[notyoueither]

Are they out there now?

[Tingkai]

Originally posted by notyoueither


I'll take the 'fact' of today's working society over some wing nut's wonderland any day of the week.

That's what I often think when reading your posts about Canadian politics.

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by notyoueither
Are they out there now?

NYE,

The people who want change are not limited to this forum. There's quite a few of them even when things seem to be working well, because it's not working for lots of people.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Kidicious


NYE,

The people who want change are not limited to this forum. There's quite a few of them even when things seem to be working well, because it's not working for lots of people.

Maybe they should get to work.

[Ned]

Whatever history this country had in supporting "dictators," I assure you it was bi-partisan.

Second, alone among US presidents, this president is calling for democracy in all the mid East. This has never happened before.

The people who oppose this policy are the Democrats. One has to conclude that they favor the status quo: dictatorships.

Starving? The typical worker working for a foreign company are getting paid very well by local standards. Their wages do indeed drive up labor costs rapidly in any country that allows foreign investment so that over time, their wages tend to be more on the Western scale.

But the real goal of the left is to protect jobs. To the extent they are successful, they doom the companies that cannot stay competitive on costs to extinction. That is what is now happening to GM.