Violations of Air Space.. how common?

[Vince278]

Originally posted by Pekka
Then again, history shows us that they will shoot down their own plane just to claim we did it.

I should have thought of that. I believe if things do escalate out of control the West (and about everyone else) will stand with Finland.

[Pekka]

Well, fortunately it won't come to that, or at least this is not why it would come to that. YOu never know, but then again, this is perfectly normal behaviour from them so .. and not just them, others do it too.

Except if I get myself to some of them AA-missiles.. it's coming down!

[Lancer]

They do this to Finland because Finland doesn't shoot the damned Rooskies down. Finland is part of the EU? Did they ever join NATO? They do these things and it's 'fire away' time.

[Vince278]

Originally posted by Pekka
Except if I get myself to some of them AA-missiles.. it's coming down!

[Odin]

Shoot down those Russian ass-holes.

[Pekka]

yees! you guys are whipping me into a frenzy of shoot-the-planes-down!

[Vince278]

[Wernazuma III]

Austrian Airspace has been violated by Americans shamelessly in all kinds of wars since the Gulf War.
And the Yugoslavian airforce decided to fly above our heads after we were the first to recognize Slovenia and Croatia as independant nations...

[Vince278]

Originally posted by Wernazuma III
Austrian Airspace has been violated by Americans shamelessly in all kinds of wars since the Gulf War.

Got news for you - My first time was in 1984 (though I was under the impression I had transit rights ).
A certain lady's "airspace" near Vienna took another year (I'm sure I had transit rights there too ).

[Atahualpa]

Originally posted by Vince278
Shoot them down. They can't argue about wreckage 10 miles inside your own territory. You were already being a good neighbor by giving them warnings. The best way to handle Russia is to treat them like a spoiled child.

I think we should take this advice and use it for handeling american planes as well....
You can't really argue about wreckage 10 miles inside our territory

[Kuciwalker]

You just try

[axi]

Doesn't both Turkey and Greece have F-16's? Does that mean that there are F-16 virtual dogfights over the Aegen? Holy crap! Why isn't this type of stuff in the news....one would think that someone would snap a picture of stuff like this.

Of course this is in the news! From time to time, our airforce is releasing some video footage from inside our fighter's cockpit, during the dogfight. You can then clearly hear the pilots swearing with very foul language.

[Shogun Gunner]

Okay, I'm very interested now. I did some googling on "Greek Air Force", "Hellenic Air Force", etc. but I could not find anything about dogfights with Turkish jets.

You wouldn't have a link there, would ya?

[Pekka]

shogun gunner, there might be none. If you wanted to find out about violations to our airspace, you would find only this article, and nothing else, nothing from decades of violations, even though it's common knowledge in here.

And this only came this public because someone leaked it to the press. One might say, well this might have something to do with the NATO vote, someone trying to persuade people to want us to join NATO, of course it's possible. But since FM says this is the most active times (2005) of violations, it could be for another reason as well. I don't know.. keep your eyes open I guess.

[Joseph]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger


Are they spy planes?



You missed the point entirely. The point was whether you (or the US government) would like it if another country constantly spies on you.

In the old days, the Soviets flew as many probing in our airspace as we did theirs. They shot several of ours down, but we did not shoot their down.