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  • Reading the thread...

    no one else heard the comment (while they were in the Corellian Corvette) about the "special session of CONGRESS"?

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    • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
      Why? Because he's one poster and you're only using it because it appears to support your argument, not because it has any sort of real validity. Why is Kaak an expert and all the people who have disagreed with you here not?


      Cause NO ONE has complained about his usage. Everyone has treated it as normal.
      That is because everyone knows he meant Star Wars?

      Ask the layman, and he'll tell you Star Wars ended with the destruction of the Death StarTM

      ACK!
      Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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      • Is George W Bush a Sith Lord?

        "You are either with me or you are my enemy" - Anakin Skywalker.

        "Only a Sith Lord deals in absolutes" - Obi Wan Kenobi

        Is this the not-so-hidden meaning of George Lucas?
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        • 50 million...how much did your ticket cost?


          $5.50 - over 9,000,000 sold!

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          • An eye-rollingly bad film that screamed "CORNY" with no shame.

            To say anything else is a waste of words.
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            • Jesus Christ, that movie was loud!

              More irritating was the fact that the 4 year-old who sat in the seat prior to me apparently urinated all over it - something I didn't discover until about halfway through the movie.

              It was OK. Better than the prior two movies, but not as good as the first three - but then, I'm not a kid anymore and I pretty much knew what to expect.

              One thing that I don't really feel in regards to the newest Star Wars movies is a sense of scope, of scale, of vastness. Obi Wan goes to look for Robot Bad Guy, hops in his little one-man spaceship, and finds him the first place he lands. It had the feel of a wife finding her drunken husband at the nearest bar to home. The opening battle, with tens of lives and trillions of dollars of capital equipment being destroyed every minute for the simple purpose of saving one person, was so irrelevant that it wasn't even referred to for the rest of the movie. You'd think somebody would mourn the Jedi lost in the effort to save the Chancellor.

              However, I did come away very impressed with Ewan McGregor. Not only did he have the thankless task to play a role made famous by Sir Alec Guiness, he had to do so in a way that was reminiscent of him - and regardless of the vast continuity flaws that exist in the SW universe (see my previous post about Vaders thoughts), he, at least, kept up his part of the bargain.

              Score: 7/10. And I'm being charitable.

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              • Originally posted by JohnT
                50 million...how much did your ticket cost?


                $5.50 - over 9,000,000 sold!
                I paid $6.

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                • 9 million only? That's a small fraction of the pop of the world...
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                  • I'm watching the deleted scenes from episode 2 and Padme is WAY too leftist.
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                    • I watched the movies starting with the ep IV re-release in 1981. I certainly remember the episode numerals in the crawl and speculating with my grade school friends as to why the series didn't start with 'episode I'. I think way back then we speculated that it meant there would be 3 prequels but we had no idea we would have to wait 20 years to see them or that when finally released, the first two would (relatively speaking) seem to suck so badly.

                      It was not until the 90's re-release of eps IV through VI at the very earliest that I first remember being corrected when I would call ep IV simply "Star Wars" by the pedantic super fans among those now grown up aforementioned grade school friends. They would claim that the movie's proper name was "A New Hope" and I am not at all surprised to see that silly but familier debate repeated here.

                      The conclusion I took from those debates was that yes, in super fan circles it has almost always been called "A New Hope" or "episode IV" certainly as early as the original release of the empire strikes back. However I think these fans were exclusively the ones who had read all the novelizations and knew every last bit of trivia about the movies.


                      I think the episode IV or ANH desginations were always there in super fandom usage but they only became widely used when TPM was going to be released.

                      Bottom line, the episode IV a New Hope designation has been with the movie at least since ESB re-release but only as a bit of mysterious trivia from the crawl.

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                      • The conclusion I took from those debates was that yes, in super fan circles it has almost always been called "A New Hope" or "episode IV" certainly as early as the original release of the empire strikes back. However I think these fans were exclusively the ones who had read all the novelizations and knew every last bit of trivia about the movies.


                        I disagree. As noted above, I was one of the "super-fans" who read all the books, speculation, and etc and nobody, repeat: nobody referred to the movies as ANH or Ep. 4 until the mid/late 1990s.

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                        • @ JohnT

                          Would it be too much trouble to rechristen this thread : "Star Wars vs. A New Hope" ?

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                          • Originally posted by Lancer
                            I'm watching the deleted scenes from episode 2 and Padme is WAY too leftist.

                            A leftist queen ? Is she Dutch or Swedish or Danish ?
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                            • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                              Obiwan and Yoda are the last two jedi but they don't try to teach anyone and instead just decide to sit and wait out the next 20 years until A New Hope happens. You figure trying to revive the jedi and spread their teachings would be a concern to them.


                              I guess that's a failing of the original work.
                              It's not a failing of the original work. It's a failing of the author to properly integrate his new stories into his earlier work. Any halfway decent writer can do it.
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                              • Originally posted by Jaguar
                                Episode IV: A New Hope was always in the text crawl at the beginning, but the movie was known as Star Wars.
                                Oh no it was not. I saw the original Star Wars before it was changed, because I lived in a test market. I also saw it several months later when it was released for the general market. Episode IV: A New Hope didn't see the silver screen until the mid 90s, when the films were re-released. Lucas talked about it later, and as of ESB we all knew Star Wars was "episode 4."
                                Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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