How do you think the muslin world would respond to quoranflushers.com?

[Fake Boris]

Originally posted by JohnT


That's a pretty ignorant statement. For example, there's nothing in the Koran that separates church from state - in fact, it demands that they be one and the same, whereas the Bible states that people need to "render unto Caesar what is Caesars, render unto God what is God's."

In the book I referenced earlier, Bernard Smith examines this difference in great detail. You oughtta check it out before you make such blind statements as the above.

The Bible is several thousand pages long, and for the past two millenia theology doctors have had it say exactly opposite things.

There's not much more in common between all forms of Christians than between people who would call themselves "atheists".

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
No they aren't. Not any moreso than right-wing Xtian nuts like the Atlanta bomber and Tim McVeigh were/are.

There are far more Islamist nuts than Xian nuts out killing people.

[MrFun]

WTF is up with the word "Islamist."





Just stick with Muslim.

[chequita guevara]

An Islamist is a follower of political Islam.

[MrFun]

ok -- I guess I can approve of the use of that word





you have permission to carry on

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
No they aren't. Not any moreso than right-wing Xtian nuts like the Atlanta bomber and Tim McVeigh were/are.

There are a lot more Muslims trying to kill him than Christians.

[aneeshm]

Originally posted by JohnT
But Islamists* are.

* Is "Islamist" a word?

Yes , it is a word .

[DaShi]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger


Islam isn't trying to kill you, either.

Bye UR.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
There are far more Islamist nuts than Xian nuts out killing people.

While the mad Xians have access to more advanced weaponry.

[Kuciwalker]

Not really, no.

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
There are far more Islamist nuts than Xian nuts out killing people.

I don't know about that, in the U.S. at least. I think there's a healthy dose of Xtian nuts who are ready to go. See Elok's post to Spiffor about abortion in the other thread. Get someone slightly less stable believing the same thing, it's going to become violent.

[:) Smiley]

I don't think Islam is the cause so much as a symptom, as it seems to be a popular religion for angry people who feel oppressed. Take for instance the Black Muslim movement in the US during the 70s.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Che lives in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. NO Islamist is trying to bomb Ft. Lauderdale. So he's pretty safe. And when he was in Jacksonville, if the locals found out he was a Commie... .

As for Seperation of Church and State... it was nothing like what we consider seperationism. The State was required to pass laws according to the Bible. All the seperation of church and state meant was that preachers weren't allowed to rule the state and kings weren't allowed to rule the church, but laws had to conform to the Bible. This is seen in the Catholic "Two Swords" theory pushed forward during Gregory VII's reign. We also see this Luther's push for all secular law to be based on the Decalogue (10 Commandments). And in Calvin's Geneva, Calvin was a religious leader as well as the de facto political head of the city.

[Tuberski]

I think the KKK would be exstatic.......



ACK!

[DaShi]

Originally posted by Smiley
I don't think Islam is the cause so much as a symptom, as it seems to be a popular religion for angry people who feel oppressed. Take for instance the Black Muslim movement in the US during the 70s.

Agreed, the violence comes from other factors. Islam (and any other religion for that matter) is just used as a justification.