UN sez: 24,000 Iraqis dead from war and the first year of occupation

[Jon Miller]

he is saying that the number is more likely to be correct

he isn't saying that 24k is an ok number to have died..

Jon Miller
(he is talking about the approximation)

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Hueij

24,000 is reasonable? I'm with MrMitchell on this one.

I'm with the Gimp.

[Dinner]

I'd like to see how the figure was arrived at and what metodology was used. The reason is I want to make sure they aren't counting people who would have died anyway war or now war plus it is hard to blame the death of a child who caught a disease from drinking sewage tainted water on the war since the sewer systems have been screwed up since 1991.

Parts of the article lead me to believe something like that might be happening since they're comparing the post invasion situation to the conditions in the 1980's.

[VetLegion]

The figure seems too low. It would mean that 65 people died per day. It seems to me that the terrorist attacks that happen each couple of days and kill about 100 people add up for that alone.

[Dinner]

The terror attacks weren't happening in the first year which is the time period looked at by this study.

[Zkribbler]

Anybody remember the "shock and awe" bombing campaign? Lots of people had to have died in those blasts.

And we flattened numerous Iraqi divisions.

24,000 seems really low.

& The US alone has had 1,600 killed. A 15:1 kill ratio also sounds low.

[Winston]

24,000 seems really low.

Especially when compared to the 24,000,000 who got to experience free elections as a result.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Zkribbler
Anybody remember the "shock and awe" bombing campaign? Lots of people had to have died in those blasts.

And we flattened numerous Iraqi divisions.

24,000 seems really low.

& The US alone has had 1,600 killed. A 15:1 kill ratio also sounds low.

Once again this is for May 2003 to May 2004. There were no where near 1600 dead GIs back in May 2004.

[Az]

That's some good news, I think. It's a whole lot lower than before the war, with the sanctions. More or less what che said.

[Bugs ****ing Bunny]

And now here's a quote from Unicef about what the sanctions in the 1990's did-

Ms. Bellamy noted that if the substantial reduction in child mortality throughout Iraq during the 1980s had continued through the 1990s, there would have been half a million fewer deaths of children under-five in the country as a whole during the eight year period 1991 to 1998.

http://www.unicef.org/newsline/99pr29.htm

...and that's just the under 5's.

[GePap]

If one reads the article, it states that it was a household survey of 21,000 households held in May 2004. (Ergo, the first year. We are in year 2 now)

So, it misses 1 year's worth of violence, including the worst violence.

It also has a range, from a low of 18,000, to a high of 29,000.