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  • UN sez: 24,000 Iraqis dead from war and the first year of occupation

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    That's a lot, but also less than the 100,000 figure of the Lancet study.
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    I have no idea, I haven't been there, no one knows for sure, but IMO that sounds about right. Tough to say though. It's still a lot though.. it's a lot...
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    • #3
      Are these only the people killed in the fighting or does it include those who died as a result of the disruption of society?

      In any event, given the massive numbers that were dying before the war, this may be a net gain for the Iraqi people, as somehting like 150,000 a year were dying previously from sanctions.
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      • #4
        and the number killed from Saddam

        now we didn't go into there for the right reasons

        but we can do some good while we are in there, if we pressure our representatives...

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        • #5
          24,000 is much more reasonable than that BS Lancet one, that unfortunately have been used by my fellow lefties as an excuse for knee-jerk anti-americanism.

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          • #6
            Does this study include casualties from terror attacks and coalition combat operations or does it just stick to excess civilian deaths due to disruption of sservices?
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Odin
              24,000 is much more reasonable than that BS Lancet one, that unfortunately have been used by my fellow lefties as an excuse for knee-jerk anti-americanism.
              That would make a comparable figure of 300000 in the US. Less than the Civil War; very reasonable indeed.
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              • #8
                24,000 is not much.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by DAVOUT
                  That would make a comparable figure of 300000 in the US. Less than the Civil War; very reasonable indeed.
                  Especially since during the civil war we had, what, less than a third of our current population.

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                  • #10
                    24,000 is much more reasonable than that BS Lancet one, that unfortunately have been used by my fellow lefties as an excuse for knee-jerk anti-americanism.
                    I'm not out to promote anti-Americanism, but 24,000 deaths is just as bad as 100,000 deaths, in that 0 of them should have happened.
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                    • #11
                      but 100000 would be happening anyway...


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                      • #12
                        so it shouldn't be compared to 0...

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by mrmitchell

                          I'm not out to promote anti-Americanism, but 24,000 deaths is just as bad as 100,000 deaths
                          At least 76,000 people would disagree vehemently.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Jon Miller
                            but 100000 would be happening anyway.
                            That's unclear from this information.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Odin
                              24,000 is much more reasonable than that BS Lancet one, that unfortunately have been used by my fellow lefties as an excuse for knee-jerk anti-americanism.
                              24,000 is reasonable? I'm with MrMitchell on this one.
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