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  • #61
    Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
    Money that the government sits on doesn't do anything. Money that is invested grows the economy, and widens the tax base over the long run.
    I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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    • #62
      Let's try an allegory.

      You have a farm. You're doing really well, and you pay off all your debts. You still have extra coming in. You could decide to buy more land or put some away in case of a drought. If you buy more land, when the drought comes, you have more empty land. It doesn't help. If you put some away, you may have less land, but when the drought comes, you'll survive.
      Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Oerdin
        Incrasing spending while cutting taxes and running up debt is bad policy that's why people should care.
        It's not bad policy unless it ended badly. Since it didn't it was good policy. That's the way that works.
        I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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        • #64
          Originally posted by chegitz guevara
          Let's try an allegory.

          You have a farm. You're doing really well, and you pay off all your debts. You still have extra coming in. You could decide to buy more land or put some away in case of a drought. If you buy more land, when the drought comes, you have more empty land. It doesn't help. If you put some away, you may have less land, but when the drought comes, you'll survive.
          Public financing doesn't work like that. Money not in the economy isn't money at all really. The govt prints the money. Holding on to it is just like never printing it at all.
          I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
          - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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          • #65
            They could buy things with it, like foreign bonds, stocks, gold reserves, etc. The idea is put money away for a rainy day, when they need it. If you only invest for the good times, you'll be screwed when the bad times come. And bad times always come.
            Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
              Money that the government sits on doesn't do anything. Money that is invested grows the economy, and widens the tax base over the long run.
              Alaska seems to be doing well with the perminent fund plus they invest it in stocks and bonds so it isn't exactly doing nothing. The money has helped develope infastructure in the state, fund public services, helped diversify the economy for when the oil eventually runs out, and it's provided a nice rebat check each year to the people of Alaska.
              Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by chegitz guevara
                They could buy things with it, like foreign bonds, stocks, gold reserves, etc. The idea is put money away for a rainy day, when they need it. If you only invest for the good times, you'll be screwed when the bad times come. And bad times always come.
                Govts don't need to buy assets. They produce their own, called govt bonds.
                I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                • #68
                  Howard is putting quite a large sum of the surplus away for safe keeping... but it's basically a big superannuation fund for public servants. The opposition want to turn it into a fund for future investment in infrastructure.

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                  • #69
                    With the amount of money invested in it, particularly if the sale of Telstra goes through, there will be more than enough money by 2020 to fund the retirement of the baby boomers and infrastructure. It is likely to overshoot the target amount by 10s of billions of dollars.
                    I'm building a wagon! On some other part of the internets, obviously (but not that other site).

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