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Originally posted by Fve Crathva
The most extreme thing he's done was bribe whatshername to cross the floor. That was a dirty, slimy trick. Other than that, the Liberals have been pretty much rosy when it comes to defending their government--because they didn't have anything solid to defend against. I find their internal politicking to be less antagonising than the bull**** the Tories are advertising about Paul Martin grasping for power as if he was Emperor Palpatine.
The most extreme thing he's done was bribe whatshername to cross the floor. That was a dirty, slimy trick. Other than that, the Liberals have been pretty much rosy when it comes to defending their government--because they didn't have anything solid to defend against. I find their internal politicking to be less antagonising than the bull**** the Tories are advertising about Paul Martin grasping for power as if he was Emperor Palpatine.
Of course you feel that ads that take Martin to task are outrageous, but anything the Liberals have to say about the federal Tories... hidden agenda blah blah... will destroy healthcare blah blah... Tories want to help the seperatists blah blah... sexist comments about Stronach blah blah (oops, those were provincial Tories!)... are completely accurate and helpful to the national political discourse.
I'm not sure what to say, since there seems to be a wide gulf between our perceptions of events there doesn't seem to be a lot of point to it.
Personally, I think the government is right to hold off on an election until after Gomery says his piece. It seems kind of stupid to have an election where the primary issue is a corruption scandal, before the corruption scandal has been investigated fully. It's kind of like putting a person to death before they've been sentenced with the death penalty. I'm sure it's exactly what the Tories want. I think that starting the campaign at all, let alone with scummy, disingenuous attack ads, while the government is still in session is obnoxious and appalling.
In any case, it's really not up to the opposition to decide when to go to the polls. They're within their rights to try for a vote of non-confidence if they feel it's appropriate, but they can't just start shrieking abuse when decades-old parliamentary procedure inconveniences them and fails to give them an unfair advantage. They made a stupid mistake with their fake confidence vote, and for some reason they've latched onto it and started shrilly proclaiming that the government has ignored a vote of non-confidence. I say, suck it up, Harper, you failed to incite an election illegitimately, and now you've failed to convince the House on a real confidence issue. Can we get on with governing the country until an election can be called on the rest of Canada's timetable?
SP
In any case, it's really not up to the opposition to decide when to go to the polls. They're within their rights to try for a vote of non-confidence if they feel it's appropriate, but they can't just start shrieking abuse when decades-old parliamentary procedure inconveniences them and fails to give them an unfair advantage. They made a stupid mistake with their fake confidence vote, and for some reason they've latched onto it and started shrilly proclaiming that the government has ignored a vote of non-confidence. I say, suck it up, Harper, you failed to incite an election illegitimately, and now you've failed to convince the House on a real confidence issue. Can we get on with governing the country until an election can be called on the rest of Canada's timetable?
SP
The only reason that there was a budget vote yesterday to begin with, and that there will be opposition days starting on the 31st is because of the, what was it? Oh yeah, 'shrieking abuse' that it took to get Martin to come back and face the Commons.
So yes, now we can get back to governing the country since the Liberals have been forced to treat the Commons as more than a convenient place for the storage of potted plants. I'm sure Mr. Harper would tell you you're welcome.
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