Russia to Bush: We never occupied the Baltics!

[Serb]

Originally posted by Odin
Serb being an ass again:

F. yourself, mister.

Serb, the baltic countries have a right to exist, they are totaly diferent ethinic groups, THEY'RE NOT EVEN SLAVS!

I KNOW!
FURTHERMORE, I BELIEVE THEY SURE HAVE RIGHT TO EXIST. BUT THE PROBLEM IS THAT CURRENTLY THEY ARE A NAZI COUNTRIES AND I BELIEVE THAT ALL NAZI REGIMES SHOULD BE DESTROYED.

[Serb]

Originally posted by Ned


What is true, is that today's Russia has become a fascist state.

FYI, fascism is banned in Russia. Aside the Baltic States where SS veterans and young members of neo-nazi organizations freely march through the streets of their capitals (because the authorities ley them do so, and even more, send police units to kick the crap out of anti-fascists who protest such nazi parades), where they name they kindergardens after the commanders of SS divisions, where they build monuments to SS soldiers, where soldiers who fought vs. nazism in WW2 can wear their WW2 medals only if they got permission of the president, otherwise its illegal (on the other head SS f*ckers can wear their iron crosses for all they care), aside all that sh!t, in Russia you'll find yourself in prison if you are involved in any fascist activity.

[Serb]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Pekka You show that revisionist, Serb, who's boss .

I'm not in the mood for a showdown. I'm tired of your stinking sandbox and I'm leaving forever.

Da poshli vy vse na hui.

Fare f*cking well.
And I'm not f*cking joking. I'm leaving Apolyton forever. Pity, pity brainwashed suckers unable to think freely.

[Tassadar500]

[Odin]

Originally posted by Serb


FYI, fascism is banned in Russia. Aside the Baltic States where SS veterans and young members of neo-nazi organizations freely march through the streets of their capitals (because the authorities ley them do so, and even more, send police units to kick the crap out of anti-fascists who protest such nazi parades), where they name they kindergardens after the commanders of SS divisions, where they build monuments to SS soldiers, where soldiers who fought vs. nazism in WW2 can wear their WW2 medals only if they got permission of the president, otherwise its illegal (on the other head SS f*ckers can wear their iron crosses for all they care), aside all that sh!t, in Russia you'll find yourself in prison if you are involved in any fascist activity.

Damn, then why isn't Putin and all his cronies in jail? He is sure starting to act like one.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by Serb
I'm not in the mood for a showdown. I'm tired of your stinking sandbox and I'm leaving forever.
Fare f*cking well.

So you lose and run away crying... how Russian of you .

[Wezil]

Originally posted by Serb

...where they name they kindergardens after the commanders of SS divisions, where they build monuments to SS soldiers, where soldiers who fought vs. nazism in WW2 can wear their WW2 medals only if they got permission of the president, otherwise its illegal (on the other head SS f*ckers can wear their iron crosses for all they care...

This interests me. I'll allow you the opportunity to provide a credible link before I write this off as the ravings of a lunatic...

[JohnT]

"In the name of the communal fraternization of brothers, I'm taking my balls and going home!"

[Imran Siddiqui]

You are being generous today, Wezil... as soon as he posts, I know it's the ravings of a lunatic

[Wezil]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
You are being generous today, Wezil... as soon as he posts, I know it's the ravings of a lunatic

I am wary. This is the same individual that tried to imply Canadian kids grow up dreaming of playing big league hockey in Russia.

[Lancer]

It was a bit of confusion on the part of brother comrads of Red Army. They were to take the LEFT to go Poland but the great general had a bit too much of our wonderful Russian vodka to celebrate birthday of beloved leader Stalin and he go right. It was good to happen when the people of baltic are so happy and invite us staying.

This is story that we are sticking to it.

[Ned]

Originally posted by Wezil


This interests me. I'll allow you the opportunity to provide a credible link before I write this off as the ravings of a lunatic...

Me too, although I suspect that Serb is referring to any anti-Soviet patriot as a NAZI. He really underestimate the level of hatred of the USSR there was in Europe at the time.

[Lawrence of Arabia]

the economist has an article suggesting that one of the dominant supporters of stalin and communism in russia to this day are the uneducated youth.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by DanS
It's amazing to me that Bush can continue to make geopolitical hay for the US on a pact that was killed 60 years ago.

Bush may be dumb, but the Russians are dumber.

[Pekka]

VetLegion, yes I was owned. OK!

Ned, that's actually a pretty good observation, however not precisely correct, at least yet. But if we compare baltic states and russia right now, it's not the baltic states that are more fascist.

Let's look at what the signs of fascism are:

exalts nation and sometimes race above the individual
uses violence and modern techniques of propaganda and censorship to forcibly suppress political opposition
engages in severe economic and social regimentation
engages in corporatism
implements totalitarianism

None of the countries are fascist, but baltic states are not either. And they are also not even close to nazis or national socialism, because the definition is (for nazism):

National Socialist Program
Racism: Especially anti-Semitism, which eventually culminated in the Holocaust.
The creation of a Herrenrasse (Master Race = by the Lebensborn (Fountain of Life; A department in the Third Reich)
Anti-Slavism
Belief in the superiority of the White, Germanic, Aryan or Nordic races.
Euthanasia and Eugenics with respect to "Racial Hygiene"
Anti-Marxism, Anti-Communism, Anti-Bolshevism
The rejection of democracy, with as a consequence the ending the existence of political parties, labour unions, and free press.
Führerprinzip (Leader Principle) Belief in the leader (Responsibility up the ranks, and authority down the ranks.)
Strong show of local culture.
Social Darwinism
Defense of Blood and Soil (German: "Blut und Boden" - represented by the red and black colors in the Nazi flag)
"Lebensraumpolitik", "Lebensraum im Osten" (The creation of more living space for Germans in the east)
... and finally it is closely related to fascism.

So no, neither of those claims are true, unless we are provided good evidence that these signs are fulfilled by our baltic friends.