You know, court's have removed children from mentally retarded parents before. If the defense is going to use this as their excuse for leniency, someone should probably remove the child from her custody once it is born. Clearly, her oxygen deprivation at birth and subsiquent brain damage made her ability to tell the difference between Right and Wrong extremely unreliable. This puts her children in danger of coming to harm.
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Originally posted by Tattila the Hun
(Note, "you", not "me".)
About your sig line - How about Oscar Meyer's Civilization?"And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man." -- JFK Inaugural, 1961
"Extremism in the defense of liberty is not a vice." -- Barry Goldwater, 1964 GOP Nomination acceptance speech (not George W. Bush 40 years later...)
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Maybe this can also be used to attack the Americans with Disabilities Act. There are clearly some places that the mentally retarded have no business being.*
*That said, the disclaimer: This is all said with tongue firmly planted in cheek. I have nothing against the ADA or the mentally retarded, but the decision by her defense lawyers to use this as an excuse for her behaviour I find to be particularly offensive. And not in the good, Funny-Ha-Ha-Harmlessly-Ribbing-Someone way...The cake is NOT a lie. It's so delicious and moist.
The Weighted Companion Cube is cheating on you, that slut.
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Originally posted by Vince278
I did my share while I was in the USAF but not as many as everyone else. At least the AF ladies were prettier on the average.
About your sig line - How about Oscar Meyer's Civilization?I've allways wanted to play "Russ Meyer's Civilization"
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Originally posted by Tattila the Hun
Nah, that's for wieners."And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man." -- JFK Inaugural, 1961
"Extremism in the defense of liberty is not a vice." -- Barry Goldwater, 1964 GOP Nomination acceptance speech (not George W. Bush 40 years later...)
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2008 Presidential Candidate (for what its worth)
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Originally posted by DRoseDARs
*That said, the disclaimer: This is all said with tongue firmly planted in cheek. I have nothing against the ADA or the mentally retarded, but the decision by her defense lawyers to use this as an excuse for her behaviour I find to be particularly offensive. And not in the good, Funny-Ha-Ha-Harmlessly-Ribbing-Someone way...
Even if she were to be found mentally 'diminished' or whatever fancy-schmancy term they use these days, that same lawyer would be arguing that she'd 'recovered' a few days later in front of another judge to try and have that overturned too.
Defense lawyers in general
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Astounding.
Judge Throws Out England's Guilty Plea
By T.A. BADGER, Associated Press Writer 48 minutes ago
FORT HOOD, Texas - A military judge on Wednesday threw out Pfc. Lynndie England's guilty plea to prisoner abuse at Abu Ghraib, saying he was not convinced that she knew her actions were wrong at the time.
Col. James Pohl entered a plea of not guilty for England to a charge of conspiring with Pvt. Charles Graner Jr. to maltreat detainees at the Baghdad-area prison.
The mistrial for the 22-year-old reservist, who appeared in some of the most notorious photographs from the 2003 abuse scandal, kicks the case back to the military equivalent of a grand jury proceeding.
The action came after Graner, the reputed ringleader of the abuse, testified as a defense witness at England's sentencing hearing that pictures he took of England holding a naked prisoner on a leash at Abu Ghraib were meant to be used as a legitimate training aid for other guards.
Other photos showed England standing next to nude prisoners stacked in a pyramid and pointing at a prisoner's genitals.
When England pleaded guilty Monday, she told the judge she knew that the pictures were being taken purely for the amusement of the guards.
Pohl said the two statements could not be reconciled.
"You can't have a one-person conspiracy," the judge said before he declared the mistrial and dismissed the sentencing jury.
Under military law, the judge could formally accept her guilty plea only if he was convinced that she knew at the time that what she was doing was illegal.
By rejecting the plea to the conspiracy charge, Pohl canceled the entire plea agreement.
During defense questioning, Graner said he looped the leash around the prisoner's shoulders as a way to coax him out of a cell, and that it slipped up around his neck. He said he asked England to hold the strap while he took photos that he could show to other guards later to teach them this prisoner-handling technique.
At that point Pohl halted Graner's testimony and admonished the defense for admitting evidence that ran counter to England's plea on the conspiracy charge and one count of maltreating detainees.
The judge did not discuss the other five counts to which England had pleaded guilty.
Graner, who is said to be the father of England's infant son, was found guilty in January and is serving a 10-year prison term for his role in the scandal.
In a handwritten note given to reporters Tuesday, Graner had said he wanted England to fight the charges.
"Knowing what happened in
Iraq, it was very upsetting to see Lynn plead guilty to her charges," he wrote. "I would hope that by doing so she will have a better chance at a good sentence."
Graner maintains that he and the other Abu Ghraib guards were following orders from higher-ranking interrogators when they abused the detainees.The cake is NOT a lie. It's so delicious and moist.
The Weighted Companion Cube is cheating on you, that slut.
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