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I like to think soccer would be more well received if goals were 6 points instead of one, and headers off of courner kicks were 3 points, and penalty shots were 2 or 1... and if you score on your own goal you get a point and the ball back.
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Do people who watch womens' soccer watch mens' soccer, like the MLS? I don't think so. And the contrary applies as well (men don't watch women).Originally posted by DanS
OK, then of the 100 or so Division I teams (out of 498 total) that report attendance figures, the average is about 1,150 per match. I think that's more than respectable for the current state of affairs. A lot of people are watching soccer in the US.
And would they watch the game if it wasn't their college playing? Doesn't seem like it.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)Comment
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Originally posted by Japher
I like to think soccer would be more well received if goals were 6 points instead of one, and headers off of courner kicks were 3 points, and penalty shots were 2 or 1... and if you score on your own goal you get a point and the ball back.
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I like to think soccer would be more well received if goals were 6 points instead of one, and headers off of courner kicks were 3 points, and penalty shots were 2 or 1... and if you score on your own goal you get a point and the ball back.
The whole fun of the game is that you can only win by getting the ball in the net.Comment
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Here's a site for attendance stats. Take, for instance, the Premier attendance. 20 teams.Originally posted by Az
Yeah, 20-30k are ok, I guess, ( but only for 2-3rd tier euro teams). However TV viewers, and TV revenues are much larger in europe, it seems.
I can easily imagine an MLS of about 1.5x this size in aggregate attendance some time in the future. Right now, the MLS is something like a poor man's Division 1 (Championship) as far as attendance goes.
Last edited by DanS; May 3, 2005, 15:30.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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Us American's need high scoring games, and rules that are so confussing not even the refs no them all...The whole fun of the game is that you can only win by getting the ball in the net.
Also, if the soccer players could take breaks every 5 minutes or so... that would be nice, thank you.Comment
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In our lifetimes? I can't.Originally posted by DanS
I can easily imagine an MLS of about twice this size in aggregate attendance some time in the future.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)Comment
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and rules that are so confussing not even the refs no them all...
The rules are fairly simple... especially compared to American sports.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)Comment
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Well, I put it at a more humble 1.5x after thinking about it some. Certainly within our lifetimes.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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Nope, not even that. I'd be shocked if the MLS reached parity with English aggregate attendance in our lifetimes.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)Comment
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aggregate attendance? that depends on how many games are played- the important thing is average attendance.
a) most teams in the premiership are 2-3rd tier teams continent wise.
b) the premier league suffers from tiny stadiums - the biggest stadium is 67k only!
c) TV viewerships are much better.Comment
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MLS plays roughly the same number of games as the EPL, IIRC.
The highest average attendance MLS has ever had was the first season with 17,500. The EPL team with the least average attendance in the 2004-05 season is Fulham, which had 19,765 (which is 89% capacity, btw). So the least attendance team in the EPL has a greater average attendance than the MLS' best season ever.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)Comment
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Yeh, but how long have the EPL teams been around?I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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And back then there was no TV either and people couldn't really drive 50 miles to go to a game.
The Football League opened in 1888 (first professional league in Britain). In 10 years it was drawing large crowds in terraced stadiums.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)Comment
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I would like to see the attendance figures Europe-wide. There used to be a site on this, but I can't find it now.a) most teams in the premiership are 2-3rd tier teams continent wise.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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