Why Does Battlefield Armor Bother Republicans So Much?

[Az]

What bothers me about that Ramadi story is that the Marines there are from Camp Pendleton. This is the same camp where my nephew is based. He is scheduled to go to Iraq at the end of the summer. So I fear he might be deployed to Ramadi and have to fact the same kind of **** as detailed in the NYTimes story.

Hope he's safe, good luck to him.


KH:

eah. I hate to tell them this, but a dude with a RPG-7 is always going to be less detectable, more flexible etc. than is a dude sitting in dressed up SUV in the middle of the street. The advantage the dude in the SUV needs to have is to force the RPG to go through 6 inches of steel plate.

Otherwise he's a sitting ****ing duck.

Precisely. The only way to do towns is slowly and step by step. You go from house to house, etc.

Man, all this talk makes me feel like crap, being a uni student, while my friends are stationed in Bum****, Gaza/ Bum****, Samaria.

[Dinner]

Yeah, the Stryker is a textbook example of how screwed up our military procurement system is. It was designed in the 1970's to be a light, air movable, APC which was faster and more manuervarable then a Bradley. In the early 1980's Congress looked at the program and decided the design was bad, that the Stryker didn't do what it was supposed to do, and that it would be more cost effective to simply buy more Bradleys then to pay for a duplicate design. In the late 1990's Republican law makers suddenly resurrected this out of date cold war design and pumped a bunch of money into it.

It turns out the Strykers aluminium armor doesn't stop much of anything so masses of new steel plating have been added in order to protect the crew. Now the steel plated Stryker is so heavy it can't be transported via air plane, which was the sole reason for buying the Stryker to begin with, and the suspension system wasn't designed for tens of thousands of pounds of extra steel plating so the vehicles are unstable and have to be kept to low speeds.

Just a complete boon-doggle.

[Lancer]

Gordon Smith! Huh... I'm going to call that boy tomorrow, tell him off. This is very bad!

[Az]

I can't wait till they privatize our military industries. That way we can be just like America.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Az

Man, all this talk makes me feel like crap, being a uni student, while my friends are stationed in Bum****, Gaza/ Bum****, Samaria

Pull out your settlers and soldiers, finish building the wall, then give Gaza to Egypt and WB to Jordan.

[Ted Striker]

Horrible

[Lancer]

Wait a sec, Oerdin, did the dems add something to it like a billion $ for gay whales?

[Az]

Pull out your settlers and soldiers, finish building the wall, then give Gaza to Egypt and WB to Jordan.

A) Why not keep the settlers, and just let the army and the state leave?
B) They won't take them.

Btw, Lancer, A bil$ for gay whales is better than 11 bil$ for a completely useless deathtrap.

[KrazyHorse]

because the settlers will get slaughtered.

[Lancer]

Az, you've obviously never been innocently swimming along and up comes a gay whale...

[KrazyHorse]

You can't have soft targets like that sitting in the middle of hostile territory if you want to maintain a certain degree of uninvolvement. You'll get a massacre or two, then a punitive expedition, and pretty soon you'll be back to where you started.

[Az]

Bull****. The settlers can take care of themselves. I have little doubt of this, really. The arab fighters are complete numbskulls and have a ****e learning curve.

[Lancer]

I'm still going to call Smith tomorrow and find out why, but I'll bet it's something the dems added that the repubs can't accept.

[Az]

I'm still going to call Smith tomorrow and find out why, but I'll bet it's something the dems added that the repubs can't accept.

Republicans vote down protection for troops - IT'S THE DAYUMN LIBRULS FAULT, I TELL YA!

[Lancer]

It might be, nothing wrong with finding out is there Az?