More stupid southerners.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by SpencerH
So what is it you object to, government regulation of what books are paid for with public money, or state politicians speaking up for what they believe in?

"If the bill became law, public school textbooks could not present homosexuality as a genetic trait and public libraries couldn't offer books with gay or bisexual characters."

There is a legitimate scientific debate occuring about the origins of homosexuality and this politician is attempting to block scientific studies because he doesn't like the results. Burning every book that has a homosexual character in it is truly the sign of great democracy.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
So one legislator equals an entire region of the USA?

No, but he is a southerner and he is stupid therefor he is one more stupid southerner.

[Last Conformist]

Originally posted by SpencerH
So what is it you object to, government regulation of what books are paid for with public money, or state politicians speaking up for what they believe in?

I disapprove of politicians believing in that sort of thing in the first place.

[SpencerH]

Originally posted by Last Conformist

I disapprove of politicians believing in that sort of thing in the first place.

I disagree with lots of things that politicians espouse, so what? While he's an extremist about what actions should be taken, he's voicing an opinion (ie that homosexuality is a sin) that probably 80-90% of Alabamians would agree with.

[DeathByTheSword]

I disagree with lots of things that politicians espouse, so what? While he's an extremist about what actions should be taken, he's voicing an opinion (ie that homosexuality is a sin) that probably 80-90% of Alabamians would agree with.

yes and why do they agree with it? not because they are dumb or a different kind of people...just because they were told from the beginning of there life that something that is normal natural thing (animals have homosexuals too, and humans are animals) it wrong because one STUPID OUTDATED book says so. i am sick of religous fanatics and people that dont think for themself...and it is sad to see that the 'land of the free' is become a place of narrowminded and hatefull people...

wow that just had to be said...now i will not argue with anyone about my text i just had to say it, if you disagree you can kiss my big hairy......dog

[SpencerH]

Originally posted by DeathByTheSword

yes and why do they agree with it? not because they are dumb or a different kind of people...just because they were told from the beginning of there life that something that is normal natural thing (animals have homosexuals too, and humans are animals) it wrong because one STUPID OUTDATED book says so. i am sick of religous fanatics and people that dont think for themself...and it is sad to see that the 'land of the free' is become a place of narrowminded and hatefull people...

wow that just had to be said...now i will not argue with anyone about my text i just had to say it, if you disagree you can kiss my big hairy......dog

Wow! With a wave of your "magic sword" you invalidate the belief systems of the vast majority of the worlds population. It must be wonderful to have such insight!

[Dinner]

The key part here is that the bill seeks to even eliminate books at a univerity level which have a homosexual character in it. FROM THE UNIVERSITY LEVEL ON DOWN! There is a real scientific debate about the origins of homosexuality and this man is attempting to stop it from happening. If a university isn't the place to do research and to debate these issues then where is?

[St Leo]

Originally posted by SpencerH
Wow! With a wave of your "magic sword" you invalidate the belief systems of the vast majority of the worlds population. It must be wonderful to have such insight!

My vast majority could beat up your vast majority.

[Dinner]

This really deserves its own thread but I have already used my two for the day. Conservative law makers in Florida are trying to force a 13 year old pregnant foster child into carrying the pregnancy to term.

Florida already had a law which blocked abortions for women under 18 which the SCOTUS tossed then religious fundimentalists rammed through a law saying that women under 18 could only get an abortion if both parents agreed to it but that was also tossed out by the SCOTUS. Fundimentalists have also created a law which attempts to strip any woman in the state system of her right to control her own body as spelled out by the SCOTUS. The ACLU has picked this case up and the law will likely be struck down but will the courts move fast enough so that she can still get the abortion to end this unwanted pregnancy?

Fla. Agency Gets Teen's Abortion Blocked

By JILL BARTON, Associated Press Writer Wed Apr 27,10:04 PM ET

WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. - The state's social services agency was granted a court order to block an abortion for a pregnant 13-year-old girl living in a state shelter, prompting an emergency appeal Wednesday by the
American Civil Liberties Union.
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The ACLU in its appeal on the girl's behalf cited Florida statutes that protect a minor's decision to decide on an abortion.

"No (Department of Children & Families) regulation or state law can override a constitutional right as recognized by the
U.S. Supreme Court," said Howard Simon, the organization's executive director for Florida.

"But putting aside the legalisms, forcing a 13-year-old to carry an unwanted pregnancy to term against her wishes not only is illegal and unconstitutional, it's cruel."

The girl learned she was pregnant two weeks ago and planned to have an abortion Tuesday. Her caseworker arranged for transportation and help. But the state Department of Children & Families asked a Palm Beach County juvenile judge Tuesday morning to block the procedure.

The state agency argued the 13 1/2-week pregnant girl — described as L.G. in court documents — is too young and immature to make an informed medical decision, according to the ACLU appeal.

A judge granted a temporary injunction and ordered a psychological evaluation.

There was no immediate indication when a decision on the appeal would be made.

In 2003, the
Florida Supreme Court struck down a law requiring parents to be notified if their minor daughters seek an abortion. Florida's high court also cited privacy rights in 1989 when it tossed out a law that would have required parental consent for a minor's abortion.

But DCF spokeswoman Marilyn Munoz said state law prohibits the department from consenting to an abortion for a minor in any instance. "It's not our decision. We stand in different shoes. We're held to a higher accountability," Munoz said.

She declined to comment specifically on L.G.'s case; no details on the girl's parents or family history were available.

Gov. Jeb Bush and Florida lawmakers have tried for years to tighten state laws on abortion.

After the Florida Supreme Court struck down the 1999 parental notice law, lawmakers voted last year to change the constitution to make such a law possible.

Voters approved the constitutional amendment in November and lawmakers currently are pushing legislation to require physicians to notify at least one parent before performing an abortion on a girl under age 18. Another bill would tighten regulation of clinics that perform second-trimester abortions.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=519&ncid=519&e=28&u=/ap/20050428/ap_on_re_us/abortion_dispute

[Last Conformist]

Originally posted by SpencerH


I disagree with lots of things that politicians espouse, so what? While he's an extremist about what actions should be taken, he's voicing an opinion (ie that homosexuality is a sin) that probably 80-90% of Alabamians would agree with.

I don't approve of what most Alabamians think either.

[BlackCat]

Originally posted by SpencerH


Wow! With a wave of your "magic sword" you invalidate the belief systems of the vast majority of the worlds population. It must be wonderful to have such insight!

Do you really mean that delusions based upon a 2000 year old fantasy book are a stable ground for todays society ?

[MrFun]

Not all Southerners are/were stupid.



Martin Luther King Jr., for example, as someone already mentioned.

[Dinner]

For the third time no one ever claimed all southerners were stupid. It was simply pointed out that her is a stupid southerner and that there have been stupid southerners in the past.

[Guynemer]

Originally posted by Solomwi
He's a buffoon, to put it mildly, and widely recognized as such.

I call bull****.

If he's such a widely-recognized buffoon, how does he get elected?

By representing the beliefs of his constituents, that's how. Now if you are, by extension, calling his constituents buffoons, you have my full support.

[BlackCat]

Originally posted by Oerdin
For the third time no one ever claimed all southerners were stupid. It was simply pointed out that her is a stupid southerner and that there have been stupid southerners in the past.

Will it be a banishing reason if I guess that there migth has been stupid norterners too at some point in history ?

Anyway, you must admit that south do have a tendency to produce nutcases as the current.