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    Everytime I see another book burning southern facist I become a bit more sad for America.

    Gay book ban goal of state lawmaker
    Wednesday, December 01, 2004
    KIM CHANDLER
    News staff writer

    MONTGOMERY - An Alabama lawmaker who sought to ban gay marriages now wants to ban novels with gay characters from public libraries, including university libraries.

    A bill by Rep. Gerald Allen, R-Cottondale, would prohibit the use of public funds for "the purchase of textbooks or library materials that recognize or promote homosexuality as an acceptable lifestyle." Allen said he filed the bill to protect children from the "homosexual agenda."

    "Our culture, how we know it today, is under attack from every angle," Allen said in a press conference Tuesday.

    Allen said that if his bill passes, novels with gay protagonists and college textbooks that suggest homosexuality is natural would have to be removed from library shelves and destroyed.

    "I guess we dig a big hole and dump them in and bury them," he said.

    A spokesman for the Montgomery-based Southern Poverty Law Center called the bill censorship.

    "It sounds like Nazi book burning to me," said SPLC spokesman Mark Potok.

    Allen pre-filed his bill in advance of the 2005 legislative session, which begins Feb. 1.

    If the bill became law, public school textbooks could not present homosexuality as a genetic trait and public libraries couldn't offer books with gay or bisexual characters.

    When asked about Tennessee Williams' southern classic "Cat On A Hot Tin Roof," Allen said the play probably couldn't be performed by university theater groups.

    Allen said no state funds should be used to pay for materials that foster homosexuality. He said that would include nonfiction books that suggest homosexuality is acceptable and fiction novels with gay characters. While that would ban books like "Heather has Two Mommies," it could also include classic and popular novels with gay characters such as "The Color Purple," "The Picture of Dorian Gray" and "Brideshead Revisted."

    The bill also would ban materials that recognize or promote a lifestyle or actions prohibited by the sodomy and sexual misconduct laws of Alabama. Allen said that meant books with heterosexual couples committing those acts likely would be banned, too.

    His bill also would prohibit a teacher from handing out materials or bringing in a classroom speaker who suggested homosexuality was OK, he said.

    Allen has sponsored legislation to make a gay marriage ban part of the Alabama Constitution, but it was not approved by the Legislature.

    Ken Baker, a board member of Equality Alabama, a gay rights organization, said Allen was "attempting to become the George Wallace of homosexuality."

    Aside from the moral debates, the bill could be problematic for library collections, said Jaunita Owes, director of the Montgomery City-County Library, which is a few blocks from the Alabama Capitol.

    "Half the books in the library could end up being banned. It's all based on how one interprets the material," Owes said.
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  • #2
    Damn stupid southerners
    Speaking of Erith:

    "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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    • #3
      So what is it you object to, government regulation of what books are paid for with public money, or state politicians speaking up for what they believe in?
      We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
      If any man be thirsty, let him come unto me and drink. Vampire 7:37
      Just one old soldiers opinion. E Tenebris Lux. Pax quaeritur bello.

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      • #4
        And notice--it's a scalawag proposing it. He has already sould his soul as it is.
        meet the new boss, same as the old boss

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        • #5
          Setting: Ghana's First Independance day
          Backround: first colony to be freed under the policy of deconolonisation
          Date: 6 March 1957

          Nixon: What does it feel like to be free?
          Black Journalists: We dont know. We're from Alabama.

          nothings changed since 1957.



          Screw the South
          "Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini

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          • #6
            Incidentally, the TX House just passed a gay marriage/civil union ban.
            "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
            -Bokonon

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            • #7
              Allen does not really believe in the bill, but he knows enough of his constituents love that kind of grandstanding that proposing a doomed bill is worth it.

              Note that he does not want to ban books, movies, and plays that imply that incest is unnatural, because if he did he would be voted out of office in a second!
              The dogmas of the quiet past, are inadequate to the stormy present. The occasion is piled high with difficulty…we will be remembered in spite of ourselves… The fiery trial through which we pass, will light us down, in honor or dishonor, to the last generation… We shall nobly save, or meanly lose, the last best hope of earth.
              - A. Lincoln

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Ramo
                Incidentally, the TX House just passed a gay marriage/civil union ban.
                Incidentally, a committee in the Calif. Assembly just passed a same-sex marriage bill.

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                • #9
                  incidentally, gavin newsome, mayor of Sodom-on-Sea is up to his usual tricks and will soon have legalized gay marriage in california. too bad we werent the first, but at least we arnt the last.

                  for everyone in middle america, you guys had better watch out: the gay agenda is coming to eat your babies.
                  "Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Ramo
                    Incidentally, the TX House just passed a gay marriage/civil union ban.
                    Yep, to "protect marriage." Now, everyone, probably even Texans, could figure out that if you want to 'protect marriage" you just ban divorce and allow gay marriage.

                    Somehow, i don't think banning divorce is on even the Texas legislature's radar scree, and thus "protecting marriage" seems as far away as ever.
                    The dogmas of the quiet past, are inadequate to the stormy present. The occasion is piled high with difficulty…we will be remembered in spite of ourselves… The fiery trial through which we pass, will light us down, in honor or dishonor, to the last generation… We shall nobly save, or meanly lose, the last best hope of earth.
                    - A. Lincoln

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                    • #11
                      incidentally, gavin newsome, mayor of Sodom-on-Sea is up to his usual tricks and will soon have legalized gay marriage in california. too bad we werent the first, but at least we arnt the last.


                      Wow... Newsome will be Mayor for Life in San Francisco after this .
                      “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                      - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                      • #12
                        oh yeah, for sure. we love him in san francisco, but sometimes it goes a little too far. there was an article recently praising how hard he works and how hes a workaholic and how no other mayor has worked as hard as he does. thats going a little overboard i think, cuz willie brown worked pretty hard securing bribes and contracts for his friends, and he didnt get caught.

                        he might even work his way up to governor/ senate, but I think he will max out at that. too many bigots in the overrepresented south.
                        "Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini

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                        • #13
                          How dare you speak of the beloved south in such a way, you yankee. I challenge you to a duel!

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                          • #14
                            sure, no problem. if you come from the city, you are 9 times more likely to go to jail for a crime involving firearms then if you are from the country. southerners hunt squirrels, we hunt each other.
                            "Everything for the State, nothing against the State, nothing outside the State" - Benito Mussolini

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                            • #15
                              Outlawed you say?! Is this more Yankee trickery. Very well then, I challenge you to a game on hungry, hungry hippos. The winner shall bring pride to his family and state.

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