Is Dean drunk, or just insane?

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
Huh? It's the left that gets off on this on this anti-GOP hatred. People like Dean and many in the democratic base seem to have no conception of the idea that two well meaning and good people could come up with very different ideas.

The left mostly sees this as keeping up appearances.

[Patroklos]

Perhaps playing to your steriotype is not the right thing to do?

He doesn't just have to reenvigorate the base, he has to downright convince people to switch sides. What he has succeeded in doing is having his base sigh as the realize they have already lost, and had the otherside harden their hearts and say "**** you then."

[chequita guevara]

He ain't talking to you. What I find funny is how many far right wingers thing they speak for the middle.

[Ned]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


Well, that's definately a mistake. Course, right now he's gotta raise the moral of the Party base, which has suffered a serious defeat. You don't raise moral by trying to surrender.

No doubt. But the Republicans got into power by coming up with new programs and ideas. At the time, it was called, "Contract with America."

Many believe the braindead party is the Democrat Party, as it has no ideas or programs. It substitutes hatred for policy. Can they win the hearts and minds of the moderate voter by behaving like drunken lunatics?

[Dinner]

Elections in this country are becoming more and more a joke any way. Republicans have jerry-mandered every district they can in order to prevent fair elections while congressmen from both parties attempt to move district lines in order to make "safe districts". Our democracy is very sick.

[chequita guevara]

True dat, Oerdin. It's not the GOP victories that bother me so much as the way they play the game. It seems like democracy is something to be overcome, not respected.

[Patroklos]

He ain't talking to you. What I find funny is how many far right wingers thing they speak for the middle.

Man you are on an bad steriotyping roll today, Oh yeah, I fogot I am from the deep South apparently

[Lancer]

"Elections in this country are becoming more and more a joke any way. Republicans have jerry-mandered every district they can in order to prevent fair elections while congressmen from both parties attempt to move district lines in order to make "safe districts". Our democracy is very sick."

Though my memory may be failing me, I seem to remember the Dems doing the same thing Oerdin describes to the districts in the '70s. Anyone else recall this?

[Patroklos]

Republicans have jerry-mandered every district they can

I suppose you take issue with the Dems making ridiculous districts to unite far flung black communities to assue black representatives?

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Patroklos
Man you are on an bad steriotyping roll today,

I live for hyperbole.

[Patroklos]

I live for hyperbole.

"...at least its an ethos."

[Lancer]

"I suppose you take issue with the Dems making ridiculous districts to unite far flung black communities to assue black representatives?"

Maybe this is what I remember, though if it is I wouldn't have been against it.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Patroklos
I suppose you take issue with the Dems making ridiculous districts to unite far flung black communities to assue black representatives?

It's one thing to try and get like groups together. It's another thing to try and engineer permanent minorities.

Say you had a community with four districts and it was plit 50/50. You could gerrymander the districts to have three districts with solid majorites for one party, and the other district 90% for the other party. This is what the GOP has been doing.

Personally, I'm against districts altogether. I think all representitves should be elected proportionally at large.

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[JohnT]

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