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  • #46
    Originally posted by Bkeela
    It has been suggested that our long hair developed as protection against maurading hunters who bit the vulnerable spinal region at the base of the skull with canines inherited from some chimp like ancestor.
    Considering we evolved in Africa, and that long hair on Black people doesn't cover the back of the neck without chemical processing, I'd have to say this idea isn't really that smart.
    Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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    • #47
      Originally posted by chegitz guevara
      It's funny how no one ever makes the arguments about those who rape children that they do about those who rape adults. Adults are always asking for it or are vindicitive *****es who change their minds or didn't like the sex.
      I feel the same hatred for a person who rapes and murders an adult as I do for a person who rapes and murders a child.
      I'm about to get aroused from watching the pokemon and that's awesome. - Pekka

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
        Lynch him!



        Grab your torch and pitchfork!
        Isn't this the guy from the "USA" song?
        urgh.NSFW

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Wycoff


          It seems to be the modren trend to care more about the criminal than about the victim. It comes up all the time in the DP threads, especially from the Europeans. I maintain that it's impossible to rehabilitate most violent criminals, and even if some of them could be reformed the magnitude of their crimes makes it so they don't deserve the chance for rehabilitation. They didn't give their victims a second chance. Child rapists/murderers are one of the reasons why I'll never stop supporting the death penalty. I've found every argument for its abolition utterly unpersuasive. I don't understand how people can lobby against executing these monstrous criminals.
          sunk cost I think.

          you can only bury the dead, but you have to spend a bit more time on the still living. You know, arrest-trial-sentencing etc? Leads to recency/primacy for the accused to others other than the direct acquaintences of the victim.

          I posted statistics for recidivism rates in sex offenders. Do you have something that would indicate they are incorrect? Or are they inapplicable in your opinion, ie, your statement is referring to those who are eternally incarcerated?

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Wycoff


            It seems to be the modren trend to care more about the criminal than about the victim.
            Re-read the posts by myself, Horse and the goog Doctor. Society has actually become far more damning of these things.
            The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil Finland

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            • #51
              Originally posted by asleepathewheel

              I posted statistics for recidivism rates in sex offenders. Do you have something that would indicate they are incorrect? Or are they inapplicable in your opinion, ie, your statement is referring to those who are eternally incarcerated?
              They're inapplicable as far as my opinions on the DP. Hopefully these people would be imprisoned for life anyway. I think it's a waste of resources to keep them alive.
              I'm about to get aroused from watching the pokemon and that's awesome. - Pekka

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Bkeela
                I wonder if there is some evolutionary, instinctive foundation to paedophile impulses. Is it just mental problems warping sexual desire?

                I have no doubt that at one time in our distant history, children were the number one food source of roaming, socially rejected males. Perhaps the dormant hunger for young flesh gets mixed up with sexuality.
                I really doubt this, but your referrence to "rejected males" may have some relevance. If you look at the statistics posted by asleepatthewheel you find that pedophiles tend to be considerably older than other sex offenders. Perhaps pedophiles are older people who have given up on relations with adults and are attracted in children because of the child's comparative helplessness.

                It has been suggested that our long hair developed as protection against maurading hunters who bit the vulnerable spinal region at the base of the skull with canines inherited from some chimp like ancestor. This method would have been employed to instantly silence the victim from alerting help. We lost the teeth, but retained the hair. [Hair was a handy protection for children, but became a liability for fighting adult males - except those who developed the beneficial baldness mutation, which was too slow to become widespread, because humans developed the intelligence to cut hair].

                Anyway, I question if paedophiles are truly mentally ill. Of course such behaviour is anti-social, but in the jungle, anything goes for the sake of survival.
                I really doubt this. Humans are less hairy than most other land mammals. It's felt that our lack of body hair is an adaptation that helps keep our brain cool. We retain hair on the head however as insulation.
                "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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                • #53
                  Another problem - and by the way this IMHO, the Psychologists in my wife's doctoral program would probably have a s**t fit if they read this - is that we no longer distinguish between pedophilia and statutory rape. This is an example of cheapening the crime, i.e. the extremes some militant feminists go in defining rape ("he told you he would break up if you didn't have sex" is rape to them - I kid you not).

                  Statutory rape, i.e. having sex with a willing adolescent is not what I consider pedophilia. It is wrong, but it is an immature and stupid crime, i.e. knowing you are having sex with a person who is not legally responsible, but who is very willing. IMHO most of the men, and occasional women, who do this and get caught realize - that piece of a** simply was not worth 2-5 years in prison. Even if they never get the fact it is wrong, they understand the punishment.

                  A pedophile is an entirely different beast. They are excited by prepubescent children, i.e. children without any secondary sexual characteristics. There is something profoundly wrong in them, and the cause is moot. The sex drive is one of the most fundamental drives in man, and is they would start to do some serious research into it I suspect they could start to seperate out that 3.3% that is dangerous, most of which I will bet come from the group I am calling true pedophiles.

                  It reminds me of a test a radio host came up with, if the idea of watching two men get it on makes a guy go "ewww" then he isn't gay - which is also why it is not voluntary IMHO. For every poster here, I also would bet the idea of watching an adult have sex with a prepubescent child is revolting. For those who are only excited by that - I find it very sad but they must be locked up, I like that Canadian system.
                  The worst form of insubordination is being right - Keith D., marine veteran. A dictator will starve to the last civilian - self-quoted
                  And on the eigth day, God realized it was Monday, and created caffeine. And behold, it was very good. - self-quoted
                  Klaatu: I'm impatient with stupidity. My people have learned to live without it.
                  Mr. Harley: I'm afraid my people haven't. I'm very sorry… I wish it were otherwise.

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                  • #54
                    Canada has a system in which they have men watch kiddie porn and if they get excited they lock them up for good?
                    "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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                    • #55
                      You have nothing to be afraid of unless you're a paedophile.
                      urgh.NSFW

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Az
                        You have nothing to be afraid of unless you're a paedophile.
                        NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL DEMOCRACY!
                        "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by chegitz guevara
                          It's funny how no one ever makes the arguments about those who rape children that they do about those who rape adults. Adults are always asking for it or are vindicitive *****es who change their minds or didn't like the sex.
                          Because children don't normally dress sexily.

                          ACK!
                          Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust!

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                          • #58
                            Have you been paying attention to young girls these days?
                            Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
                              There was an older man in our town who ran various kids classes. He gave dancing lessons and he offered a sort of mock indian tribe for boys. My mother enrolled me in both. In the indian club we had to make our own loin clothes, and then we learned indian dances and chants. At the end of each class he'd give us a mock spanking. He'd have us lie across his lap, then he'd rub his hand across our buttocks and give a mock slap on the butt. Our mothers made us go to this thing. I don't think they quite understood what was going on.
                              and you readily admit to this

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Wycoff


                                It seems to be the modren trend to care more about the criminal than about the victim. It comes up all the time in the DP threads, especially from the Europeans. I maintain that it's impossible to rehabilitate most violent criminals, and even if some of them could be reformed the magnitude of their crimes makes it so they don't deserve the chance for rehabilitation. They didn't give their victims a second chance. Child rapists/murderers are one of the reasons why I'll never stop supporting the death penalty. I've found every argument for its abolition utterly unpersuasive. I don't understand how people can lobby against executing these monstrous criminals.
                                Here's the thing. I don't recall ever seeing a child molester on the electric chair. It's always a murderer.

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