mp3/music player advice needed

[Tingkai]

Originally posted by Provost Harrison
So you couldn't just plug in an iPod and copy from your computer to the device? That would be crap...

You can, and you don't need special software or iTunes.

The iPod works like a portable HD.

[Agathon]

You don't think it's user friendly to have a device icon on your system, then when you drag a music file there it'll add it to the device library?

Only if you treat your music files like any other file, instead of using a task based interface like itunes. I thought Windows was supposed to be about task based interfaces -- what a joke. I never look at the music files on my system. They are buried in some folder somewhere -- itunes adds them automatically, and trashes them automatically if I command delete them from its library. Hunting through the hard drive to find music files? - no thanks.

And I was forced to use XP the other day. What a piece of ****, it can't even display Unicode Greek with all the accents properly, and IE is just retarded (I love that stupid dog that wags its tail while you search for ****).

How anyone could get any work done with that crap is beyond me.

[Nostromo]

Someone wants to pick a fight... I bet you look like that tough dude in Once Were Warriors.

[alva]

Originally posted by DRoseDARs
@ Alva, Bkeela

I will never go back to casettes if I can help it. I didn't enjoy carrying around bulky casettes; I didn't enjoy carrying around bulky CDs. This was the main reason I decided against a MiniDisk player a few years back, instead opting for my first MP3 player.

MP3 > Casettes + CDs + MiniDisks

My "Yes" was that he is the only one still using casettes,

[Tingkai]

Here's something to consider:

" A new $29 Camera Connector lets the iPod Photo double as an enormous backup for your digital camera. Using this tiny adapter, you can download your latest shots off your camera to free up space in its own memory for new pictures.

"It's the definition of simplicity in operation. Plug a camera's USB cable into the Connector's jack, turn the camera on and the iPod will prompt you to import your pictures. As they transfer, it will flash a thumbnail preview of each on the iPod's screen; when you're done, you can delete those shots off the camera or leave them intact. "

And...
"Now Apple is taking another crack at adding color to an iPod. The price of entry is now $349, and Apple sells only one non-color-screen iPod outside of the iPod mini line. In other words, color now amounts to a feature you get for free if you want more than 20 gigabytes of storage in an iPod."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A39145-2005Apr9.html

[Snotty]

Originally posted by Ramo
This is what I'm talking about (they also have a 1 GB model for about $100 less):

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...&s=electronics

#Hey thanks! thats looks just the ticket. Any idea if it loses all its memory if you replace the battery?!? I hope not

[Asher]

Originally posted by Agathon
Only if you treat your music files like any other file, instead of using a task based interface like itunes.

My question is why don't you implement both?

I thought Windows was supposed to be about task based interfaces -- what a joke.

As far as I understand, Windows doesn't work like the above unless the "player" is simply a USB Mass Storage system (USB-key) like the Nomad MuVo. The Zens require a music app like MediaSource, WMP, Winamp (w/ plugins), etc to transfer music.

I never look at the music files on my system. They are buried in some folder somewhere -- itunes adds them automatically, and trashes them automatically if I command delete them from its library. Hunting through the hard drive to find music files? - no thanks.

So you download all of your music in iTunes? That must be expensive.

[Imran Siddiqui]

You don't think it's user friendly to have a device icon on your system, then when you drag a music file there it'll add it to the device library?

That's actually pretty cool. I can live with iTunes, but wouldn't mind seeing a feature like this .

[Gibsie]

I've got the Creative Zen it's my baby and I wub it to pieces <3

[Provost Harrison]

You're a rather said individual aren't you?

[Asher]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
That's actually pretty cool. I can live with iTunes, but wouldn't mind seeing a feature like this .

That's how "Notmad Explorer" works with the Nomad series.

[Agathon]

My question is why don't you implement both?

Because I don't need both. Why am I going to go hunting around my system for "05 - Sweet Caroline".m4a" to drag it on to my mp3 player, and then do the same with the 239 other songs I want to put on my ipod?

Granted, the Finder has type and find, but it is still a pain in the arse to do.

It's simply easier to have a dedicated interface that searches all the metadata and allows me to drag and drop (if I want), but also allows me to use that data to make smart playlists for autofill, or just drag the album or artist name (e.g. "Neil Diamond") to the device in the source list.

So you download all of your music in iTunes? That must be expensive.

No. My other sources automatically download the file, move it to a specified folder and add it to itunes. I never see it. My music files could be called things like "anal_fisting.mp3" and I'd never know or even care.

[Gibsie]

Originally posted by Provost Harrison
You're a rather said individual aren't you?

haha typo

[Atahualpa]

Originally posted by Agathon
No. My other sources automatically download the file, move it to a specified folder and add it to itunes. I never see it. My music files could be called things like "anal_fisting.mp3" and I'd never know or even care.

my email address ata....

[Asher]

Originally posted by Agathon
Because I don't need both.

Why is this about your needs?

Isn't this about what users want? I love that feature, Imran expressed interest, and I'm sure many others would too.

Why am I going to go hunting around my system for "05 - Sweet Caroline".m4a" to drag it on to my mp3 player, and then do the same with the 239 other songs I want to put on my ipod?

Granted, the Finder has type and find, but it is still a pain in the arse to do.

So don't use the method in this case. No one is forcing you. They aren't mutually exclusive.

If I download 2 new songs and want them on my player, it's far easiser for me to choose Send To -> Creative Zen or click-and-drag them to the Zen icon than opening up a music player and transferring them from there.

Or if I download a new album/set of music, I just click and drag the folder to the player...

FWIW, Windows Explorer reads metadata as well.

You're the one calling others "no-nothing idiots" while you're trying to restrict what is desirable behavior to other people. Think about it.