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  • #16
    Really, Kuci, you are being a ******. Who else uses it as much as we do?
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    • #17
      Mathematics, for instance...

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      • #18
        When was the last time a scientific thesis was established by solely logical proof?

        I suppose some of the mathematicians might do something similar, but in a limited context.
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        • #19
          Mathematics IS pure, absolutely rigorous logical deduction.

          Most physics is very nearly so, with a little bit of empirical justification added.

          Philosophy doesn't come close.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Kuciwalker
            Mathematics, for instance...
            If you think that mathematics is solely logical... perhaps. But their uses are pretty limited.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Agathon
              If you think that mathematics is solely logical... perhaps. But their uses are pretty limited.
              QFT.

              Agathon is owned.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Kuciwalker

                Mathematics IS pure, absolutely rigorous logical deduction.
                That's arguable.

                Most of it has no concern with truth values, so that's a bit odd.

                Most physics is very nearly so, with a little bit of empirical justification added.
                So physics is a priori now? Descartes would be pleased.

                Philosophy doesn't come close.
                Do people hit you on the head a lot for saying stupid things?
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Kuciwalker


                  QFT.

                  Agathon is owned.
                  Because I said that no-one uses it as much as we do. Please show me a discipline that uses logic more than us.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Agathon
                    Mathematics IS pure, absolutely rigorous logical deduction.


                    That's arguable.
                    Only if you're an idiot.

                    Most of it has no concern with truth values, so that's a bit odd.


                    QFT. Owned once more.

                    So physics is a priori now? Descartes would be pleased.


                    No, but it's rigorous.

                    Do people hit you on the head a lot for saying stupid things?
                    Comparing a physical or mathematical argument to the ones I've read presented by various philosophers... there's almost no rigor at all. Unless you're just talking logical syllogisms.

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                    • #25
                      So you're telling me that mathematics, which has lots of different branches including statistics and so on is solely concerned with logic, and that physics, an empirical discipline (that prides itself on being the most rigorous and truthful response to the evidence) really is just a logical discipline.

                      That's absolute ****. Your parents should sue your school.

                      What would a physical "argument" be, pray tell? And how would it be solely logical?
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                      • #26
                        Math is just as much a matter of faith as religion. Discuss.

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                        • #27
                          Hmmm.... mathematics is just logic...

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                          • #28
                            math IS NOT Logic

                            math is truth

                            Logic is not
                            Monkey!!!

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                            • #29
                              Well logic deals with truth values, and truth functions, but formal logic has no metaphysical or epistemological account of truth itself (be it correspondence or coherence or whatever).

                              If you're Wittgenstein, logical truth is merely tautology anyway, so logical truths cannot reveal any new or useful information.

                              I find it weird that Kuci would think that mathematics and physics, two disciplines that have considerable involvement with empirical claims should be more "logical" than a discipline which focuses on argument to the exclusion of empirical claims.

                              That is, unless he is misusing the term "logic".
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                              • #30
                                counting objects is tangible...

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