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All those are methods comprehensible to anybody with a firm grounding in calculus and statistics. Not like you need a whole bunch of math tools you don't have. Just a lot of clever tricks strung together.
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I know that those are the branches of math used to solve those equations - but if you look at the actual math, and what is currently taught in a sophmore college level class on differential equations, you are talking significantly higher levels of application. Yes, if you are gifted at math you could probably derive almost all of that by simply stopping at DiffE. For those of us not nearly as gifted, post-DiffE courses, if you wish, further guidance on applying the theory, can be very helpful.The worst form of insubordination is being right - Keith D., marine veteran. A dictator will starve to the last civilian - self-quoted
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beyond what I know?Originally posted by KrazyHorse
Some simple stuff then. Linear algebra and differential calculus/taylor/fourier ****.Comment
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I really, really hope you aren't planning to do anything like microbiology...Originally posted by Odin
Of all the sciences, the reason I an going into biology is that it has the least math of all the natural sciences, because I HATE math. I like biology because it mostly deals with concepts, not arcane mathmatical laws. unfortunately, I need to take 2 or 3 math classes for my Major reqirements, and I am taking the first next fall, I am dreading it.
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Originally posted by KrazyHorse
All those are methods comprehensible to anybody with a firm grounding in calculus and statistics. Not like you need a whole bunch of math tools you don't have. Just a lot of clever tricks strung together.
hmm...but are they normally tought in a course?Comment
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Yes. It's called statistical mechanics.
But I can guarantee you that to get the relevant results simply involves a lot of footwork. Not completely new methods like those provided by extra branches of mathematics.12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
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Probably not. Scientific computing is pretty straightforward. A lot of linear algebra. A few series expansions. A lot of work.Originally posted by TCO
beyond what I know?12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
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good point.Originally posted by shawnmmcc
I know that those are the branches of math used to solve those equations - but if you look at the actual math, and what is currently taught in a sophmore college level class on differential equations, you are talking significantly higher levels of application. Yes, if you are gifted at math you could probably derive almost all of that by simply stopping at DiffE. For those of us not nearly as gifted, post-DiffE courses, if you wish, further guidance on applying the theory, can be very helpful.Comment
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I really don't remember linear algebra other then crap about the determinant. It's all convertable to algebra, no?Originally posted by KrazyHorse
Probably not. Scientific computing is pretty straightforward. A lot of linear algebra. A few series expansions. A lot of work.Comment
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What do you mean?12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
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biology can be very descriptive. It attracts people who are weaker in math and abstract thinking.Originally posted by Kuciwalker
I really, really hope you aren't planning to do anything like microbiology...Comment
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I hated biology.
I had to memorise all these things. My memory is awful. That's why I like physics.12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
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Well they had these matrices and crap.Originally posted by KrazyHorse
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Originally posted by TCO
1. What is finite math (simple terms)?
2. I guess I'm interested in some of that grant time discussion. Save the obvious lies just to get money. But to discuss, what the stuff is good for interests me. Oh...and there is a lot of higher math that is not new math to the world.
3. OR, travelling salesman, etc. interests me.
Whats OR?
finite math, doesnt have a real definition.
But math is often separated into 2 big main areas.
Those that deal with finite objects and those that deal with infinite ...
Its very broad and not precise but something like
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A :finite abstract algebras (groups, rings etc), finite combinatorial structures (graphs, designs, geometries...)
B: Most of Analysis, Topology, Diff. Geometry (even though most of these can be defined on finite structures, the most interesting ones are often infinite)...
Not that I dont care about Topology and analysis, its just my prime are of research and interest in algebraic graph theory, sort of in between group theory and graph theory....
REAL applications, are mainly in the field of computer science or close I would say...
Although combinatorial structures can be used for so many things, tournament designs, circuit board designs (graph embedings), the list would be very long...Comment
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What do you mean about higher math not being new math to the world?
you mean being old as in being discovered a long time ago?Comment
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