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Originally posted by DanS
This isn't the right way to express your opinions.
There's the right way, the wrong way, and the visually impressive way. Frankly, anyone getting hit by anything edible is funny.
Concrete, Abstract, or Squoingy? "I don't believe in giving scripting languages because the only additional power they give users is the power to create bugs." - Mike Breitkreutz, Firaxis
Well, was that in the context of a debate, or just a show?
I edited the post in the meantime. He was making a speech. A campaign event. It's just not kosher.
I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891
Buchanan gave a speech at my school last October. He was very dignified, answered questions fairly, without rancor, and even the left wing students treated him with respect. In fact, the left wingers applauded his position of a more equitable treatment of Palestinians in the Israel-Palestinian situation. It's a shame that some jackasses don't know how to express their disagreement with someone. I guess that's what you get when you go give a speech at a crappy school.
I think Buchanan gets a bad rap in the media. He's neither Republican nor Democrat, so both sides are free to take swings at him. He's always tarred as an anti-semite because he's on the right. If he were a left winger, his anti-Zionist views would be completely acceptable. Since he's on the right wing, he gets painted as the second Hitler. I'd take Buchanan over W. any day.
I'm about to get aroused from watching the pokemon and that's awesome. - Pekka
Originally posted by Wycoff
I'd take Buchanan over W. any day.
What a ringing endorsement.
"You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran
Buchanan's a borderline Holocaust denier. Rodney Dangerfield deserves more respect than Buchanan.
Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...
Originally posted by Wycoff
I'd take Buchanan over W. any day.
Then you're an idiot. The man's a fascist, a real fascist.
Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...
Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Buchanan's a borderline Holocaust denier. Rodney Dangerfield deserves more respect than Buchanan.
Dangerfield
"You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran
No it's not. In the 1980s, Buchanan sent out a newsletter saying that the Nazis couldn't have gassed people at Treblinka.
The way the Nazis killed people was by using mistimed diesel engines, which produced large amounts of carbon monoxide. Well, Pat got it in his head that because some kids survived in a subway with a diesel engine for a number of hours, that the Nazis couldn't have gassed anyone using diesel engines and so he wrote that it didn't happen.
But hey, way to stick up for Buchanan, Wcoff. Next you'll tell us David Irving's okay too.
Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...
Originally posted by Wycoff
...and a good way to keep things civil, BTW.
I don't respect people who support Holocaust deniers.
Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...
This so-called "Holocaust Survivor Syndrome" involves "group fantasies of martyrdom and heroics." Reportedly, half the 20,000 survivor testimonies in Jerusalem are considered "unreliable," not to be used in trials.
Finally, the death engine. During the war, the underground government of the Warsaw Ghetto reported to London that the Jews of Treblinka were being electrocuted and steamed to death.
The Israeli court, however, concluded the murder weapon for 850,000 was the diesel engine from a Soviet tank which drove its exhaust into the death chamber. All died in 20 minutes, Finkelstein swore in 1945.
The problem is: Diesel engines do not emit enough carbon monoxide to kill anybody. In 1988, 97 kids, trapped 400 feet underground in a Washington, D.C., tunnel while two locomotives spewed diesel exhaust into the car, emerged unharmed after 45 minutes.
Buchanan's source was almost certainly the July 1988 issue of a small (six-page) pamphlet: the G.I.E.A. Newsletter of the German American Information and Education Association (P.O. Box 23169, Washington D.C., 20026). The agenda of this newsletter becomes clear on page two:
The May Newsletter which discusses the Holocaust Museum continues to generate the greatest response. Approximately 95% of the response has been favorable; 5% negative. Evidently, that museum has a lot of people stirred up. It is obvious that the issue that sticks in the craw of so many is the hypocrisy blatantly displayed and practiced by the American Jewish community.
It is very clear that if enough people would write their senators and congressman [sic], and demand that rooms be set aside for other holocausts, something could be accomplished. Write them and point out that the German people were "holocausted" after WW II, especially by the Bolshevics, originally a Jewish/Zionist movement…
I am not aware of this May 13, 1988 article being cited in any Holocaust-denial material other than this newsletter. It looks, therefore, suspiciously like it was this newsletter that Buchanan received in the mail and, accepting its claims as true, reprinted them in his nationally-syndicated column.
Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...
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