Online gamer killed for selling cyber sword

[Dis]

everyone should see this movie:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084314/

It shows the dangers of "games"

[:) Smiley]

It was probably an onlnie RPG and not Starcraft, since Starcraft games usually end in half an hour or less, thus offering the player time to fulfill his bodily functions.

[Ari Rahikkala]

Originally posted by DRoseDARs
Self-cleaning pools

Are you implying they would have gotten kids in the first place?

[Atahualpa]

Well of course the proper reaction to his friends action would be to challange his online character in the game and not kill him in real life.

The mixture of virtual and real life can be quite dangerous as was shown in this case and I hope people get more aware of this.

The other thing that we can extract from this is, that the man expected some rules and law in the game, but nobody is there to control the law. So he went to the real life law enforcement agencies.
It must be made clear that the world he's playing in is an anarchy world, or otherwise the game would have to provide a virtual court, virtual police,...

Ofc, probably the error the man made was that he trusted his friend in real life and assumed that therefor he could trust him in virtual life as well, which is a bad assumption that should not be spread much.
Virtual reality (can) feels the same as reality but is different in the terms of a priori knowledge.
That's exactly why you want to join such a world.

[JohnT]

Originally posted by Dissident
everyone should see this movie:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084314/

It shows the dangers of "games"

As well as this:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086567/

[Spec]

Originally posted by DRoseDARs
This would have been more interesting had the guy been killed by "LIGHTNING BOLT!!! LIGHTNING BOLT!!! LIGHTNING BOLT!!!"

Dude, I had forgotten this. Why did you have to bring it back......

NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!



Spec.

[Spec]

Originally posted by Dissident
everyone should see this movie:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084314/

It shows the dangers of "games"

sure




SPec.

[mindseye]

Young Chinese guys do indeed take their computer games very seriously, the local favorite here is Counter Strike. I was surprised by the ages of the guys involved in the story, computer gaming is biggest among boys in their late teens and early twenties. (Girls, incidentally, go in more for chatting via MSN).

Chinese sometimes go ballistic if they've been too brazenly cheated. Since the courts offer little recourse, you occasionally see public brawls break out over business transactions. About two months ago I witnessed a full-on chair-hurling brouhaha at a cellphone store. The month before that I saw a man shouting and struggling to drag another out of a cab.

In other public violence situations, romance seems to be involved. I watched what was apparently a married couple get into a shoving-shouting-slapping match on a crowded public bus. Another time a crying man ran by me, chased by his apparent wife. After she caught him, they rolled on the ground fighting. These incidents are not uncommon, even in Shanghai.

Since guns are tightly controlled, Chinese tend to favor knives when they really loose it, with poison and explosives also figuring high on the list of preferred tools of retribution. Just a few months ago some knife-wielding nut broke into a school and killed a number of kids.

The photo below was from a recent report in a Wenxue city newspaper story illustrating a big problem with the privatization of Chinese hospitals: emergency room staffs that refuse to lift a finger of assistance until they see some cash. If you can't put down a sizeable deposit, many hospitals will refuse to help you. In this situation, the father didn't have enough for a deposit, and the girl had to wait two hours with a knife protruding from her back (see photo) before the father persuaded the police to force the hospital to help. The public reaction is indignance and anger, but it's difficult to attack such a problem. An English language translation of the article is at EastSouthWestNorth , an excellent and thoughtful blog, by the way.

Anyway, this thread made me think of the photo for a different reason. I don't want to press the "face" thing as far as some do, but, when suffering a catastrophic face loss, some Chinese really do go berserk and exact crazy vengeances, such as dynamiting the entire apartment building of their estranged girlfriend, throwing acid in someone's face, or poisoning someone's entire family.

In this case the attack came when the girl informed her boyfriend that she wanted to break up. This struck me as one of these face-loss madness cases, which are always particularly ugly when they involve male-on-female violence.

Usually these outbursts are related to women or money, but it looks like magic sword ownership can do it as well.

[Atahualpa]

Originally posted by JohnT

Originally posted by Dissident
everyone should see this movie:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084314/

It shows the dangers of "games"

As well as this:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086567/

And don't forget http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084314/ and http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086567/

[Boris Godunov]

Actually, if you want to get kids to stop playing D&D, just show them this one: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0190374/

That will quell the urge in no time.

[Atahualpa]

Originally posted by mindseye
Young Chinese guys do indeed take their computer games very seriously, the local favorite here is Counter Strike. I was surprised by the ages of the guys involved in the story, computer gaming is biggest among boys in their late teens and early twenties. (Girls, incidentally, go in more for chatting via MSN).

Chinese sometimes go ballistic if they've been too brazenly cheated. Since the courts offer little recourse, you occasionally see public brawls break out over business transactions. About two months ago I witnessed a full-on chair-hurling brouhaha at a cellphone store. The month before that I saw a man shouting and struggling to drag another out of a cab.

In other public violence situations, romance seems to be involved. I watched what was apparently a married couple get into a shoving-shouting-slapping match on a crowded public bus. Another time a crying man ran by me, chased by his apparent wife. After she caught him, they rolled on the ground fighting. These incidents are not uncommon, even in Shanghai.

Since guns are tightly controlled, Chinese tend to favor knives when they really loose it, with poison and explosives also figuring high on the list of preferred tools of retribution. Just a few months ago some knife-wielding nut broke into a school and killed a number of kids.

The photo below was from a recent report in a Wenxue city newspaper story illustrating a big problem with the privatization of Chinese hospitals: emergency room staffs that refuse to lift a finger of assistance until they see some cash. If you can't put down a sizeable deposit, many hospitals will refuse to help you. In this situation, the father didn't have enough for a deposit, and the girl had to wait two hours with a knife protruding from her back (see photo) before the father persuaded the police to force the hospital to help. The public reaction is indignance and anger, but it's difficult to attack such a problem. An English language translation of the article is at EastSouthWestNorth , an excellent and thoughtful blog, by the way.

Anyway, this thread made me think of the photo for a different reason. I don't want to press the "face" thing as far as some do, but, when suffering a catastrophic face loss, some Chinese really do go berserk and exact crazy vengeances, such as dynamiting the entire apartment building of their estranged girlfriend, throwing acid in someone's face, or poisoning someone's entire family.

In this case the attack came when the girl informed her boyfriend that she wanted to break up. This struck me as one of these face-loss madness cases, which are always particularly ugly when they involve male-on-female violence.

Usually these outbursts are related to women or money, but it looks like magic sword ownership can do it as well.

Well men going made at break-ups is not really special to china and that they attack their once beloved ones is neither unique to china.
Ofc I guess it's not so common in Europe, but it happens often enough.

The hospitals are state run or private run?

[mindseye]

Originally posted by jdd2007
how much money is 7200 yuan?

By the official exchange rate, it's about US$900, but in terms of purchasing power, it's more like US$2,500.

[mindseye]

Originally posted by Atahualpa


Well men going made at break-ups is not really special to china and that they attack their once beloved ones is neither unique to china.
Ofc I guess it's not so common in Europe, but it happens often enough.

Maybe I wasn't clear, I wasn't trying to paint this as a unique-to-China problem, I was trying to give a little context so people could more fairly judge how ordinary or exceptional it is to attack someone with a knife in China. Turns out it's not so expectional, especially if someone is wronged in a private business deal, which helps explain some of the bizarreness of this story.

In the US he would have just shot the guy.

The hospitals are state run or private run?

Currently mixed, like just about everything else in the economy.

[DaShi]

These kinds of stories always make me worry about the people I care about here. In places like the US, you'd expect this kind of behavior in inner cities with gang violence and the like. Basically, you know the type of places and people to watch out for. But here, it seems like most of these cases come from normal people who either just snap or are pushed too far. You never know where it will come from.

I can never agree with the 'loss of face' issue. I know that it is very important in Asian cultures, but it just seems to do more harm than good.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by DaShi
I can never agree with the 'loss of face' issue. I know that it is very important in Asian cultures, but it just seems to do more harm than good.

You may disagree with the wind, but it will still blow.