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/me is slightly bemused that people are hostile to the thought someone can be both a Christian and have a belief in science
I wonder if anyone told Georges Lemaitre.
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Don't be a dick. One can have awe at the wonder of the universe explained through science and then take that awe and put it on the entity that created that amazing universe. Many scientists do, and I did also when I was still a Christian.
Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...
it's possible to be a christian and a scientist, a christian scientist, and/or a Christian Scientist.
frankly, the only ones that irritate me are those who purport to be "scientists", often of the fundie religious type, and ignore most real evidence and twist the rest to support their beliefs.
i agree, there are many christian scirntists, just not very many fundie zealot scientists
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Originally posted by Q Cubed
it's possible to be a christian and a scientist, a christian scientist, and/or a Christian Scientist.
frankly, the only ones that irritate me are those who purport to be "scientists", often of the fundie religious type, and ignore most real evidence and twist the rest to support their beliefs.
And that is the real danger of these "scientists".
Originally posted by Odin
I don't see how a person can be a scientist and a Christian who actually believes the stuff in the Bible.
Not all Christians believe the Bible literally. I never did. Many see it as either allegorical or the flawed product of men or both.
Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...
Originally posted by Odin
I don't see how a person can be a scientist and a Christian who actually believes the stuff in the Bible.
Quite easily. Unless you plan on arguing that a Catholic priest doesn't believe the stuff in the Bible.
I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio
"I hope I get to punch you in the face one day" - MRT144, Imran Siddiqui
'I'm fairly certain that a ban on me punching you in the face is not a "right" worth respecting." - loinburger
DinoDoc - thanks for the honest answer, that you never saw the classes. Some would instead turn that into a counter-attack.
Any of you hassling DinoDoc claiming one cannot reconcile religious beliefs and science. You're being just as intolerant as the Christian fundamentalists, but in the opposite direction. Intolerance, by whatever pretty clothing it drapes itself in, is still intolerance. I have met many devout scientists, and have envied them (in a good sense) their faith. Just because you cannot conceive it, don't ridicule those who can.
Now if DinoDoc claimed to be a modern evolutionary biologist and a Biblical literalist, i.e. the earth is 5000+ years old - I would grant that is irreconcilable due to basic premises. Otherwise, Horatio, there are more things....
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Originally posted by Odin
I consider faith as an impediment to science.
If you believe in a hands-off God, it's not, or even one who only intervenes rarely. It is completely possibly to reconcile irreconcilable beliefs.
Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...
Faith can coexist with science but fundimentalist and people who believe the Bible is the literal truth of god can't be trusted to make any desicions relating to science. Average Joe's who believe in a god but who are not raving lunatics are welcome.
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