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Sure it is since all conquests has been done by evil westeners and the victims has always been noble savages.Originally posted by Zevico
The right of conquest is not something racist.With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
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Have to agree with BlackCat here. In the history that I was taught, Jews in many European societies were precluded from most economic activities except being merchants and then bankers. It is only natural that they would have social networks that survive in some form to nowadays to help them establish themselves in these areas.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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Can't see anything funny about that - the "my spear is bigger than yours" has been the rule for the main part of human existence.Originally posted by General Ludd
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With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
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It has not been the rule, and it is not a right. Do you have a right to rape a woman because you can overpower her? no. Do you have a right to kill a person because they are weaker? no. Do you have a right to take things from others because you are bigger? no Does a state have a right to do any of this? no.Originally posted by BlackCat
Can't see anything funny about that - the "my spear is bigger than yours" has been the rule for the main part of human existence.Rethink Refuse Reduce Reuse
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Parts of Eastern Poland was attached to Russia, while large parts of Prussia were attached to western Poland. In effect, Poland as a geographical unit literally moved westward. Pomerania was Prussian. Now it's Polish.Originally posted by Heresson
uh, Poland lost more territory after ww2 than it gained.I'm about to get aroused from watching the pokemon and that's awesome. - PekkaComment
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What's so funny about that?Originally posted by General Ludd
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I'm about to get aroused from watching the pokemon and that's awesome. - PekkaComment
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So just that we're clear - when we say "spear" we mean "penis", right?Can't see anything funny about that - the "my spear is bigger than yours" has been the rule for the main part of human existence.
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Please stop using this stupid rape comparison - it is rediculous and just make your argumentation weaker.Originally posted by General Ludd
It has not been the rule, and it is not a right. Do you have a right to rape a woman because you can overpower her? no. Do you have a right to kill a person because they are weaker? no. Do you have a right to take things from others because you are bigger? no Does a state have a right to do any of this? no.
In human history except from the very few last years it has been the rule that if you are stronger and dare to go into war, then you are "right" because you won.
This concept is not any longer seen as the way to handle conflicts. China - Taiwan are probably one of the few places where it still has an impact. Otherwise war is more become a police action such as Iraq and Afghanistan.
This change is fine and a very big progrees, but that doesn't mean that all what may have happened through history are to be judged by this new way.With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
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Since 1990 the Arab population in the US has grown by 40%.We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham LincolnComment
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If you use that to decide who are to be male/female when you are together with your boyfriends, it's your choiceOriginally posted by Edan
So just that we're clear - when we say "spear" we mean "penis", right?
With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
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"stop using"? I used it once.Originally posted by BlackCat
Please stop using this stupid rape comparison - it is rediculous and just make your argumentation weaker.
Conquer and rape can be synonyms. They are the same actions in essence.
Only to yourself. Self glorification does not a right make.In human history except from the very few last years it has been the rule that if you are stronger and dare to go into war, then you are "right" because you won.
This concept is not any longer seen as the way to handle conflicts. China - Taiwan are probably one of the few places where it still has an impact. Otherwise war is more become a police action such as Iraq and Afghanistan.
This change is fine and a very big progrees, but that doesn't mean that all what may have happened through history are to be judged by this new way.
Humans haven't changed in the past few thousand years, we think and judge the same way as we always have. There's always been jack asses who talk about a "right to conquest" and there's always been sensible people to laugh at them.
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Do You think I don't know that?Originally posted by Wycoff
Parts of Eastern Poland was attached to Russia, while large parts of Prussia were attached to western Poland. In effect, Poland as a geographical unit literally moved westward. Pomerania was Prussian. Now it's Polish.
Just not Russia, but USSR. Poland got tiny part of Saxony as well
And not entire Pomerania: some belonged to it before the war, and some (later additions to the original meaning, but historically Pomeranian since the fall of Wieleci confederation) part was left by Germany.
And in general, Poland shrank from sth like 389 th. sq km
to sth like 312 th sq km"I realise I hold the key to freedom,
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My fault, it was Agathon that used it eariler, but I still don't accept it as a comparison.Originally posted by General Ludd
"stop using"? I used it once.
Conquer and rape can be synonyms. They are the same actions in essence.
No, but how do you descide witch historical events that has to be undone ? It could be real fun to find out how eourpas borders should be. The same goes for America, Australia, New Zealand etc - how would you descide how borders should be drawn according to history before pre western influence ?Only to yourself. Self glorification does not a right make.
Read me right, I think it's a new concept, not more than highly 50 years old.
Humans haven't changed in the past few thousand years, we think and judge the same way as we always have. There's always been jack asses who talk about a "right to conquest" and there's always been sensible people to laugh at them.
With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
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