Schiavo Thread Part the Third

[Whoha]

Originally posted by Dissident
she can't feel pain.

I'm glad we have everything worked out about the brain to understand such things. Its even better that we can do the diagnoses without resorting to using an MRI or a PET scan.

[Dis]

can't do an MRI until those devices in her head are removed.

[Dis]

*sick thought ahead*

is starving to death an ironic death for someone with an eating disorder? True, she's not really starving to death, but dying of thirst (which is painless btw). If she feels anything, it's hunger pains. And I'm not going to boohoo about those. I went through the same thing when I lost 50 pounds.

[Whoha]

Originally posted by Dissident
can't do an MRI until those devices in her head are removed.

They instructed her husband to have them removed.

[Dis]

some of you guys don't understand he has authority over her in this state. No one can accept this.

It makes no difference is she's in a PVS or semi-concious. Semi-concious is even a worse state. This means she's aware of the hell she's in. She must feel real great in that case about her parents prolonging her agony.

No matter what her diagnosis, the result is obvious. She's not even close to the level of being disabled. She's nothing.

No one can respect the husband's wishes. They want to impose their own morality on her.

[alva]

but dying of thirst (which is painless btw

Painless, it's basically the ultimate hangover. I never had a hangover that was painless.

[Dis]

Originally posted by alva

but dying of thirst (which is painless btw

Painless, it's basically the ultimate hangover. I never had a hangover that was painless.

dying of thirst is not the same of a hangover.

hangovers also have to deal with alcohol withdrawal from the body.

and even if it is as bad as hangover so what. hangovers aren't that bad. I've went through many of them. People intentionally inflict them, they can't be that bad.

OMFG she has a headache!! This torture must be stopped!!

[Whoha]

Originally posted by Dissident
some of you guys don't understand he has authority over her in this state. No one can accept this.

It makes no difference is she's in a PVS or semi-concious. Semi-concious is even a worse state. This means she's aware of the hell she's in. She must feel real great in that case about her parents prolonging her agony.

No matter what her diagnosis, the result is obvious. She's not even close to the level of being disabled. She's nothing.

No one can respect the husband's wishes. They want to impose their own morality on her.

Don't you need a living will to explicitly spell out the expressed desire to die in such a situation?

[Dis]

Originally posted by Whoha


Don't you need a living will to explicitly spell out the expressed desire to die in such a situation?

I admit I'm not up on the law about this exactly.

You can argue that spouses should not have say over their loved ones in this situation. In fact, I've argued this in the first Terri thread. I don't like the husband's motivations. But the law is the law. And no one can seem to respect the law.

If you don't like it, change the power of attorney laws of spouses. In fact, better yet, dissolve the institution of marriage altogether.

[Agathon]

When was the last time we had three threads on something?

It's a disgrace to Apolyton that this is getting more posts than MRT144's porn thread.

Priorities people...

[alva]

Originally posted by Dissident


dying of thirst is not the same of a hangover.

hangovers also have to deal with alcohol withdrawal from the body.

and even if it is as bad as hangover so what. hangovers aren't that bad. I've went through many of them. People intentionally inflict them, they can't be that bad.

OMFG she has a headache!! This torture must be stopped!!

The bad feeling you have with a hangover is basically dehydration...
I did say ultimat hangover, not run of the mill. Anyway, I didn't say she would feel any pain.

Yes, I too have had my share of them and the reason why we do it again, is bad short term memory.

[Dis]

the doctors said that once the kidneys reach a state, they start producing something (sorry, can't remember the name) it basically eliminates any discomfort. That was what was said by a doctor on CNN today. And I'm sure they have this by the many cases of people dying of thirst, but were able to be saved and thus told their stories.

[alva]

Could very well be true but then there's always the phase before that, hey.

[Frozzy]

Kalius, the role of the attorney is to assume that the victum wants to live and force those who say otherwise to prove it with competent evidence.

That sounds more like what a lawyer for the family is supposed to do.

[Dis]

yes.. it would be more humane (and much quicker) to euthanize her. But that is illegal. I would think they would at least give her lots of morphine. So she could die high as a kite.