You're now Terri Schiavo, Please vote HONESTLY

[Shi Huangdi]

Nice to see you are calling Nobel Prize nominated Doctors and doctor from the Mayo Clinic have to say "horse****". Also nice to see you can say that when she hasn't yet been given a PET Scan or any of the most modern medical brain-scanning devices. And nice of you to say that when people have come out of it before, and we don't know what medical advances in the future might be able resuscitate her.

Not that the left would let any of that get in the way out of their zeal to kill though.

[The Emperor Fabulous]

Edit: You'll have to excuse my lack of reading

[Unspeakable Horror]

kill me

let this post be legal evidence of my intentions

[The Emperor Fabulous]

Cerebral Cortex: Complete destroyed, replaced by cerebrospinal fluid

70-90% of her upper brain has been destroyed

Three Florida neurologists viewed 12 of Schiavo's computed tomography scans on March 22. After viewing the scans, Dr. Leon Prockop (a professor and former chairman of neurology at the University of South Florida's College of Medicine) was quoted by the Sun-Sentinel as saying that Schiavo's is the "most severe brain damage as I've ever seen." Dr. Walter Bradley, the chairman of neurology at the University of Miami's Miller School of Medicine, said that he "[d]oubts there's any activity going on in the higher levels of her brain."

A new computed axial tomography scan (CAT scan) was done, as was an electroencephalogram (EEG). The CAT scan showed severe cerebral atrophy.

Mrs. Schiavo could be evaluated with a PET scan in her current condition. However, an MRI cannot be done without first surgically removing experimental electrodes which were implanted within her brain in 1992, something that Mr. Schiavo has chosen not to do. [15] (http://www.nationalreview.com/script...0503160848.asp) It is unlikely that either a PET scan or an MRI would find anything other than the severe atrophy disclosed by the CAT scan.

A persistent vegetative state (or PVS), also known as cortical death, is a condition of patients with severe brain damage in whom coma has progressed to a state of "wakefulness without awareness". The term was introduced by two doctors in 1972 to describe a syndrome that seemed to have been made possible by medicine's increased capacities to keep patients' bodies alive. A persistent vegetative state is not the same as coma

Few people have been reported to recover from PVS. Some authorities hold that PVS is, in fact, irreversible, and that the reportedly recovered patients were not suffering from true PVS.

just some bits I picked up from the wiki

[Dis]

edit: I got that wrong.

[Kuciwalker]

Re: You're now Terri Schiavo, Please vote HONESTLY

No, I wouldn't, because I WOULD BE IN A VEGETATIVE STATE. It's quite difficult to have desires at that point.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Solver
Does a PVS mean the person can not recover?

Anyway, trapped in a body is a horrible state, if she's somewhat conscious. Think "One" by Metallica.

I don't know anyone who ISN'T trapped in a body...

[Dis]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker


I don't know anyone who ISN'T trapped in a body...

god?

[The Emperor Fabulous]

Originally posted by Dissident


god?

Does he know Him?

[Mrs. Tuberski]

the question here should be does it matter, you cant feel, think or the likes of that. You wouldnt know or care if they killed you off. Leave a will thats the answer

[alva]

Originally posted by Dissident
kill me

let this post be legal evidence of my intentions

[Atahualpa]

I'd want that everybody else would be killed

[Spiffor]

If I were in the position of Terry Shiavo, my brain would be way too dead for me to have any desire. Hence my "I don't know".

With my current cognitive abilities (i.e. a healthy brain), I say my family should pull the plug if I was in this situation. Keeping a person in such misery is a terrible waste. For all intend and purposes, the Spiffor my family loves will be dead already. There's definitely no need to stall them as they must go forward with their lives (that, and I can't bear the idea of eating so much resources for absolutely no use to anybody)

[Boris Godunov]

Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
Yes. For one, Terri might not be in a PVS. If that's the case, we should certainly keep her alive and get the physical therapy she has been denied. If she is in a PVS, well she isn't aware she is kept alive so there is no harm in that.

Nice dodge, but the question was if YOU were in such a condition. Would you really want to be kept alive like that? And if so, why?

[Zoid]

Well, nothing says "Life is precious" like a drooling vegetable hooked up to a machine...