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  • #91
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    Seeker bringing up facts in a discussion, when he very well knows that facts have no place here.

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    • #92
      Sigh, all my good points ignored. Why aren't I surprised?

      Anyway, my thoughts: http://www.oneandfour.org/archives/2...acism_age.html
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      • #93
        Originally posted by reds4ever
        The athletics part is a bit sketchy but you'd have to be blind not to to see its broadly right, a big stat is that sub 10 seconds 100 meters have been run over 200 times, never once by a white man.

        The author doesn't make any distinctions inbetween Eastern Africans who dominate distance running and Western Africans (and decendants) who rule the sprints.

        Once you've admitted differing physical capabilites, it's not a big jump before you can at least *allow* for mental differences. A lot of people won't admit the former (which is obviously true) because it leads to the latter and that, in their own minds. would make them a racist.
        Whether or not there is a difference between people of different ethnic backgrounds when it comes to IQ, and whether that's due to schooling, genetics or anything else I don't know or care. However I do know that there is nothing necessarily holding them to be exactly equal, and that as such, it is perfectly possible that there is a difference.

        We can see, as Reds has stated, that there is a difference when it comes to running 100metres. How fast you can sprint is determined by how hard you train and how many fast twitch muscles you have, the latter of which is far more prevelant in people of West African descent. It's clear that there is a genetic difference in some physical capabilities, from how much those people get sunburn to how fast they can run. Similarly, it's perfectly possible there is a difference in terms of intelligence, even in terms of it being different, but not necessarily better. It may not be pronounced or significant, but it's not false just on it's premise.
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        • #94
          Boy Drogue, am I relieved to see you! Based on some posts made by certain others I'd *ALMOST* convinced myself I was racist/stupid, which was something I had previously found completely abhorant/slightly unlikely.

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          • #95
            I think Q Cubed is trying to see how many times he can brag about being asian without people getting upset. You can do it forever because no one cares. People only get offended when white people brag about being white.
            Last edited by Kidlicious; March 24, 2005, 19:30.
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            • #96
              Originally posted by Kidicious
              I think Q cubed is trying to see how many times he can brag about being asian without people getting upset. You can do it forever because no one cares. People only get offended when white people brag about being white.
              Well you know what they say about Asian men......clever but....

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              • #97
                Intelligence is inheirited to some degree, but there is no geographic differences in the variation. the reason blacks have a lower than average intelligence is because they have worse socioeconomic conditions than whites.

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                • #98
                  Fez is desperately needed in this thread!
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                  • #99
                    So the same is true of state differences, national differences, and the like? And the same with physical things I suppose, that blacks run faster purely because their socioeconomic conditions make them train harder?
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                        • "Fez is desperately needed in this thread!"



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                          • Originally posted by Drogue
                            So the same is true of state differences, national differences, and the like? And the same with physical things I suppose, that blacks run faster purely because their socioeconomic conditions make them train harder?
                            If you look at the ratio of blacks against whites in Olympic sprint finals it blows the whole socioeconomic argument out of the water. As you move through the distances (100, 200, 400 and even 800M) there are generally more and more whites at the top tier.

                            So blacks can be arsed training for 100 but not for 800m? And whites can be bothered with 800m but not 100m?

                            What are people so scared of?
                            Last edited by reds4ever; March 24, 2005, 19:47.

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                            • Originally posted by Thorn
                              SIEG HEIL SEIG HEIL! HEIL THE UBER RACE!!! DIE RACE VON DIE MARTIANS!!!
                              The only gay in this thread should be Fez
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                              • Originally posted by Thorn
                                SIEG HEIL SEIG HEIL! HEIL THE UBER RACE!!! DIE RACE VON DIE MARTIANS!!!
                                Martians who speak German?!

                                edit: Martians who speak bad German I mean.
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