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  • The back door draft continues..... part (XIIIVEF^26)

    Army Orders Further Involuntary Troop Call-Up

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Army is ordering more people to serve in Iraq (news - web sites) and Afghanistan (news - web sites) involuntarily from a seldom-used personnel pool as part of a mobilization that began last summer.



    They are part of the Army's Individual Ready Reserve, made up of soldiers who have completed their volunteer active-duty service commitment but remain eligible to be called back into uniform for years after returning to civilian life.


    The Army, straining to maintain troop levels in Iraq, last June said it would summon more than 5,600 people on the IRR in an effort to have about 4,400 soldiers fit for duty in Iraq and Afghanistan after granting exemption requests for medical reasons and other hardships.


    Lt. Col. Pamela Hart said on Wednesday the Army has now increased the number of IRR soldiers it needs to about 4,650, which means a total of about 6,100 will get mobilization orders.


    The IRR differs from the part-time Army Reserve and Army National Guard, whose soldiers train regularly as part of units. People on the IRR have no such training requirements.


    Hart also said 370 IRR soldiers had not reported to the Army by the date ordered and have not requested an exemption from service or a delay in reporting. Hart said none have been declared absent without leave, or AWOL, and the Army was trying to determine whether all of them actually had received their mobilization orders.


    "We're giving them all ample opportunity to comply with their orders," Hart said.


    The Army has approved 1,866 requests for exemptions or delays in reporting, Hart said.


    There are about 150,000 U.S. troops in Iraq, but the number is slated to decline to about 138,000 this month. The Army has defended tapping into the IRR, saying it was a legitimate personnel tool to find soldiers in a time of need.


    Army officials have said that they expect to launch a second round of mobilizations from the IRR this summer on the scale of the current round to provide soldiers for future force rotations into Iraq and Afghanistan.
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  • #2
    while this sucks, I have to admit that I think if you are dumb enough to join the reserves, you should accept that you may be called to serve...

    the lesson? don't join the reserves.
    To us, it is the BEAST.

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    • #3
      Yeah I'm sure people that joined in the Clinton years, expected to be sent off to war after they had servered their time. My brother might be called up, and he's now a University Professor.
      "Our words are backed with NUCLEAR WEAPONS!"​​

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Sava
        while this sucks, I have to admit that I think if you are dumb enough to join the reserves, you should accept that you may be called to serve...

        the lesson? don't join the reserves.
        I think the point is don't join the army - full stop!
        Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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        • #5
          I thought this would be a thread about the gay conspiracy to convert all children to homosexuality...
          "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
          Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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          • #6
            shhhh asher, don't give away my plans.... or I'll have to sick the Truppen des Todes (TM)(Copyright) on you.
            "Our words are backed with NUCLEAR WEAPONS!"​​

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            • #7
              I can't wait for Kuci and Jaguar to get drafted. Their guns will be bigger than they are.
              Only feebs vote.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Sava
                while this sucks, I have to admit that I think if you are dumb enough to join the reserves, you should accept that you may be called to serve...

                the lesson? don't join the reserves.
                You can't really argue with that.....

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                • #9
                  I didn't know F was a Roman numeral...anyway, this technically doesn't qualify as a back-door draft, they're just scraping the bottom of the barrel on their reserves. What will happen when they exhaust those reserves is anybody's guess. Sure, they could try an actual draft, but given what Iraq is like, I for one might just refuse and take jail or whatever it is they give to draft-duckers. I don't think I'd be alone either.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Elok
                    Sure, they could try an actual draft, but given what Iraq is like, I for one might just refuse and take jail or whatever it is they give to draft-duckers. I don't think I'd be alone either.
                    There is no way that they'll actually reinstate the draft. That would be political suicide in any but the most dire situation.
                    I'm about to get aroused from watching the pokemon and that's awesome. - Pekka

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Asher
                      I thought this would be a thread about the gay conspiracy to convert all children to homosexuality...
                      Nothing is stopping you from gay infecting it anyway...
                      The cake is NOT a lie. It's so delicious and moist.

                      The Weighted Companion Cube is cheating on you, that slut.

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                      • #12
                        George Bush told me we're taking troops out of Iraq and you're trying to tell me different? Wait a minute...
                        However, it is difficult to believe that 2 times 2 does not equal 4; does that make it true? On the other hand, is it really so difficult simply to accept everything that one has been brought up on and that has gradually struck deep roots – what is considered truth in the circle of moreover, really comforts and elevates man? Is that more difficult than to strike new paths, fighting the habitual, experiencing the insecurity of independence and the frequent wavering of one’s feelings and even one’s conscience, proceeding often without any consolation, but ever with the eternal goal of the true, the beautiful, and the good? - F.N.

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                        • #13
                          IRR is not part of the "back door draft" but instead are people who are still in the period they enlisted. The IRR is usually a two year period at the end of en enlistment during which the military can recall you if they need you but normally most people just sail through without ever being called up. These guys didn't get so lucky.

                          "Stop lose" is the dirty tactic which people refer to as the shadow draft.
                          Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by MOBIUS


                            I think the point is don't join the army - full stop!
                            Depends on what you're looking for.
                            Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                            • #15
                              Stop loss
                              We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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