Massive student strike in Quebec

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by notyoueither
Certainly no one should exert inappropriate pressure on strikers. Giving 0's to people who missed a mid term because of a strike would count as dirty pool as these things go.

Besides, the fight is between the students and the government, not the students and the administration. Why should the administration take sides? Coercing the students with grades would be taking sides.

The administration:

1) isn't coercing the students, it's enforcing normal policy

2) is EMPLOYED by the govt

EDIT: nm on #2

[DanS]

And take several decades to repay them.

Which is totally fine, considering that the education is used over a period of several decades. Consider, e.g., the advisability of taking on a home loan.

[MRT144]

Originally posted by DanS


That's a circular argument. Come up with a better one.

what i mean is, the government should invest in its future by paying for people's education, therefore they should help as much as possible, rather than half ass it like they are.

[DanS]

Again, that's a circular argument. People should want to invest in their own future. They are the ones directly benefitting from the investment, not the government.

[Patroklos]

You know, Pat, the vast majority of us aren't authoritarians who believe whe should take whatever the government shoves up our butt.

I wish I could say the vast majority of us are not whiners who fault the government, or anything and anything really, no matter what they do. Its called be a reasonable person

what i mean is, the government should invest in its future by paying for people's education, therefore they should help as much as possible, rather than half ass it like they are.

Maybe if students were personally invested in their education they might take it a bit more seriously, like I did. Obviously this is not the case in Quebec.

And of course when most people waste their college years playing Counterstrike and discovering internet porn via a T-1 line, it isn't any money out of my pocket to fund their four year long kegger.

[Odin]

Originally posted by DanS


Which is totally fine, considering that the education is used over a period of several decades. Consider, e.g., the advisability of taking on a home loan.

Yep, I bet you think people who rack up credit card debt because of our consumerist culture are fine too.

[Kuciwalker]

Eh, no, read his argument again.

[Dinner]

Governments should fund education because it is in society's interest to have an educated and knowledgeable populace. It is also a fact that many people cannot afford a top notch education and if we followed DanS's advice we still wouldn't have a public education system because his argument applies to all forms of public education and not just colleges. That's just to reactionary for me to swallow.

[MRT144]

thats what im saying oerdin.

[Sava]

Originally posted by Oerdin
Governments should fund education because it is in society's interest to have an educated and knowledgeable populace. It is also a fact that many people cannot afford a top notch education and if we followed DanS's advice we still wouldn't have a public education system because his argument applies to all forms of public education and not just colleges. That's just to reactionary for me to swallow.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker


The administration:

1) isn't coercing the students, it's enforcing normal policy

Strikes are widely recognised to be disruptions to 'normal policy'. A private company, nay, the government itself is not allowed to hire scabs to replace striking workers in Quebec.

You don't think students taking collective action might be covered by some of the same principles?

It is only they themselves, the students who are inconvenienced by this strike. It is only they who may have to spend an extra 6 to 12 months in school due to skipped terms.

Why should coersion in the form of permanent black marks on academic records be allowed to be used to disuade students from what appears to be a lawful excercise of their collective rights?