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It's about having a government that can spend taxes based on the wishes of its constituents, not the wishes of people demanding money.
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Who's talking about denying the right to demonstrate?Originally posted by Oncle Boris
Popular will has gone a sad long way if it's nothing more than voting every five years. What's the right to demonstrate? a useless fanfare?I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator RubioComment
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According to Boris, the constitutens widely agree with the protestors. Unless you believe he lies, I don't see why you are *****ing about it.Originally posted by Kuciwalker
It's about having a government that can spend taxes based on the wishes of its constituents, not the wishes of people demanding money."I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
"I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
"I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- DisComment
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If the constituents agree with the students, they shouldn't have to strike, the government should give them the money. It's the idea that somehow the students striking should have some sort of effect that I find absurd.Comment
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You are aware that democratic governments have the nasty tendency not to strictly follow the wishes of the citizens, aren't you?Originally posted by Kuciwalker
If the constituents agree with the students, they shouldn't have to strike, the government should give them the money.
It's the idea that somehow the students striking should have some sort of effect that I find absurd.
Like any political happening, a strike is an efficient way to push an issue on the agenda. Should there have been no strike, the issue would have fallen under the radar, and the citizens wouldn't have formulated their preferences on the issue.
Imagine the other scenario: the Students protest, but the citizens oppose the strike. The government would have obtained a higher legitimacy with its orginal decision, and wouldn't have changed it. As it is, the strike is a key element in actually having a democratic debate. And now that the issue has been raised, it is an opportunity for the government to lead a policy that is in accordance with the wishes of the citizens."I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
"I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
"I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- DisComment
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I love Imran's conception of greater good. Is it about neoliberal autocrats pillaging social-democracy to lower taxes, and macing students?
The greater good is not being held hostage by a special interest and instead deciding how to use the money to the benefit of all the constituents, not just some interest group.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)Comment
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Why do you seem to believe that college students constitue the citizenry, or that they have anything in common with the majority of the real citizenry?The government exists to serve the people. As I said previously in this thread, this sort of scenario is only good for a government that percieves it's citizens as an oponent or rival.
I have no problem with them striking or demonstrating. I have a problem with suspending normal academic procedure for what amounts for most of them to be a big keg party and an excuse to skip class, and getting PAID for it."The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.Comment
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This is no strike, this is a paid for vacation.Like any political happening, a strike is an efficient way to push an issue on the agenda. Should there have been no strike, the issue would have fallen under the radar, and the citizens wouldn't have formulated their preferences on the issue."The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.Comment
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He's saying that the government shouldn't give in to the demands. What else than expressing demands can demonstrating be for?Originally posted by DinoDoc
Who's talking about denying the right to demonstrate?
Besides, he thinks that professors should not change the academic calendar, regardless of the strike.In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.Comment
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Again, I demand $1,000,000!Comment
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They are citziens because they live under the government. What they do or do not have in common with other citizens isn't really an issue, but they are just as real as anyone else, I assure you.Originally posted by Patroklos
Why do you seem to believe that college students constitue the citizenry, or that they have anything in common with the majority of the real citizenry?
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What are your arguments, where are your people?Originally posted by Kuciwalker
Again, I demand $1,000,000!In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.Comment
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How is that denying the right to demonstrate?Originally posted by Oncle Boris
Besides, he thinks that professors should not change the academic calendar, regardless of the strike.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator RubioComment
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Originally posted by Patroklos
This is no strike, this is a paid for vacation.
I wished my school went on strike a few times if we could get full scholarship money. It's like Spring Break 2!“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)Comment
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Don't you get it, DD. The students should have unfettered right to do anything they want and no one should dissade them from their actions. Ever.Originally posted by DinoDoc
How is that denying the right to demonstrate?“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)Comment
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