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  • #61
    It's funny how conservatives can always be counted on to support undermining the future of society.
    Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
      It's like union thugs beating the guy who hires scabs.


      So you ARE admitting you are on the same moral plane as the mafia.

      I guess you won't complain if the police beat the student protestors either, right?
      Uhhh... no. It's all a question of civilians using violence in the face of institutionalized violence. The students are only asking that courses be a) canceled or b) reported instead of being given Fs. This is not asking much. Refusing this is pure provocation, however legal it is. Fortunately, not everyone thinks like you, and the university authorities have admitted that failing grades would not be given as a result of the strike.

      If we were running debt rackets and beating people for it, then you might have a point, but I'm affraid you'll have to find another argument.
      In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Oncle Boris
        The difference being, of course, that we're students of the same university where they're teaching.
        And they're citizens of the same country where Congress has power. So?

        They won't take it, but obviously they consider failing grades (and the hassles associated with it) to be too much. If the strike ends soon, they'll just do the rest of the course later; if it's too long, they'll want the semester to be canceled, without the Fs.


        So? You're point was that the students were going to threaten to beat them up or vandalize their property to get the profs to do this.

        Some people who want to work, actually stop working and go on strike. Could you believe that?
        And if you go on strike, you shouldn't expect to get paid. or for the company not to hire someone else.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by chegitz guevara
          It's funny how conservatives can always be counted on to support undermining the future of society.
          It's funny how commies really DO support violence protest :B:

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Oncle Boris
            Uhhh... no. It's all a question of civilians using violence in the face of institutionalized violence.
            Institutionalized violence? WTF?

            The students are only asking that courses be a) canceled or b) reported instead of being given Fs. This is not asking much.


            It is when YOU DON'T TAKE THE CLASS.

            Hey prof, I'm gonna skip the final. Just let me take it some other time, m'kay?

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            • #66
              They won't take it, but obviously they consider failing grades (and the hassles associated with it) to be too much. If the strike ends soon, they'll just do the rest of the course later; if it's too long, they'll want the semester to be canceled, without the Fs.
              Ahhh, I see whats going on.

              I wonder what the mid term grades looked like before the strike
              "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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              • #67
                It's all a question of civilians using violence in the face of institutionalized violence.


                Yes, threatening to fail students for not following the policies of the class is 'institutionalized violence' . Get real.

                If we were running debt rackets and beating people for it, then you might have a point, but I'm affraid you'll have to find another argument.


                How about intimidating people to go your way through violent behavior? The mafia analogy stands. Unless you'd rather like to be labelled 'terrorist'?
                “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                • #68
                  This is what it boils down to:

                  The state is giving the students free money.

                  It decides to give them less free money.

                  The students go on strike, saying they won't TAKE ANY MONEY AT ALL unless they get more.

                  Me:

                  The government NEGOTIATES with them.

                  Me: WTF?

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                  • #69
                    Yes, threatening to fail students for not following the policies of the class is 'institutionalized violence' . Get real.
                    Isn't that part in parcil with the education they want for free, you show up or fail?

                    That is what they are protesting to get, they just don't want to pay for being thrown out of school for not attending.
                    "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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                    • #70
                      The government NEGOTIATES with them.

                      Me: WTF?


                      This is why Quebec has a reputation of being full of pansies .
                      “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                      - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Kuciwalker
                        It's funny how commies really DO support violence protest :B:
                        A bit of the ultraviolence is fun, my drogs.
                        Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Kuciwalker
                          Me: WTF?
                          What happens to Quebec's economy if a generation of students doesn't graduate?
                          Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                          • #73
                            What happens to Quebec's economy if a generation of students doesn't graduate?
                            They graduate next year, after paying a pitance for the PRIVLAGE!!!
                            "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Kuciwalker
                              This is what it boils down to:

                              The state is giving the students free money.

                              It decides to give them less free money.

                              The students go on strike, saying they won't TAKE ANY MONEY AT ALL unless they get more.
                              Not exactly. Education subsidies take two forms: low tuition fees, and a "loan and grant" program by which eligible students (the poorer ones) get a mix of monetary grants and low-interest loans to cover their living expenses.

                              Even though the strike is protesting against a cut in the loan and grant program, it is conducted by halting school attendance.
                              In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.

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                              • #75
                                Grants are free money that allow you to pay for school. The state is offering less of this free money. They say well, then we'll no longer go to school. Which is what I said.

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