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  • #16
    I'm sure the husband doesn't want to flip the bill to keep her alive.


    All he has to do to avoid that is to simply divorce her. Then he's off the hook.
    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
    - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Dissident
      everything is about money. I'm sure the husband doesn't want to flip the bill to keep her alive.
      I don't think it's about the bill to keep her alive. I would wager the parents would be more than willing to cover the bill or some right-to-life organization.

      He may truly care for his wife and believe she is suffering in this state she is in. Maybe she did tell him she didn't want to live like that before this happened.
      Or maybe he doesn't want to be married to a vegetable forever and the term widower who remained faithful is more marketable than divorcee who couldn't wait for his vegetable wife to die. Even IF a divorce didn't cost him to lose anything financially, the media would rip him apart for a divorce or even a seperation over this.

      Edit: changed widow to widower, since I doubt he will get a sex change.
      Last edited by Pyrodrew; March 18, 2005, 19:23.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Dissident


        everything is about money. I'm sure the husband doesn't want to flip the bill to keep her alive.
        That's why there is something like the state.
        Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
        Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Sava
          I say let her go...

          I sure as hell wouldn't want to be kept alive by machines just for the sake of life.


          Life is sacret, breathing isn't...
          Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
          Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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          • #20
            My god, not this again. Let her go and end her suffering. The family has this pipe dream that she will somehow get better, SHE WON'T.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Sava
              because Terry didn't want to be kept alive in that state...
              Where is that stated in her hand writing. YOur going on the basis of what the husband is stating
              When you find yourself arguing with an idiot, you might want to rethink who the idiot really is.
              "It can't rain all the time"-Eric Draven
              Being dyslexic is hard work. I don't even try anymore.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by alva


                Life is sacret, breathing isn't...
                She's breathing on her own. What they're going to do is remove her feeding tube so she dies of dehydration.
                I'm about to get aroused from watching the pokemon and that's awesome. - Pekka

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski
                  Where is that stated in her hand writing. YOur going on the basis of what the husband is stating
                  And what reason does he have to lie?
                  “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                  - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui


                    And what reason does he have to lie?
                    For One I never said he lied. I said your listening to his opinions on what his wife might have or might not have said to him. There is no proof that she didnt want to live on life support other then stated by a man that may or may not be giving a **** right now.
                    When you find yourself arguing with an idiot, you might want to rethink who the idiot really is.
                    "It can't rain all the time"-Eric Draven
                    Being dyslexic is hard work. I don't even try anymore.

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                    • #25
                      It has been to this man's detriment to fight to let his wife die. If he simply wanted the money, well that was used up in care for her a decade ago. If he simeply wanted to be free, he could have turned her over to her parents' care and divorced her. Either he really hates her and wants her to die or he really loves her, and wants her to die. Of the two, only love would carry you through what this man has been through.

                      All this is is a way for the GOP to stir up their base.
                      Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski

                        For One I never said he lied. I said your listening to his opinions on what his wife might have or might not have said to him. There is no proof that she didnt want to live on life support other then stated by a man that may or may not be giving a **** right now.
                        He's stood by her side for 16 years.

                        Another thing. What about the so called "sanctity of marriage"? This part isn't to you Mrs. Tubes, but for the so called pro-lifers. The GOP always talks about how marriage is a sacred institution and how we can't let gays get married... but what about the sanctity of the Schiavo marriage? Michael Schiavo has stood by his wife for 16 years, watching her suffer in this state. Even the courts say he has the right to make this decision. It's just more proof that Republicans don't care about the "sanctity" of marriage...
                        To us, it is the BEAST.

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                        • #27
                          Let's not forget that this man probably hasn't had much of a life either the last 15 years.
                          He too has a right - while doing the right thing- to refind some happiness.
                          Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
                          Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by chegitz guevara

                            All this is is a way for the GOP to stir up their base.
                            Che, that's a shallow argument that I'd say was normally beneath you. This is a sad case all around. Nobody wins from this suffering.

                            Let me ask this, if it was an injured dog or cat that was going to be starved to death would some of the answers here be different?
                            We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
                            If any man be thirsty, let him come unto me and drink. Vampire 7:37
                            Just one old soldiers opinion. E Tenebris Lux. Pax quaeritur bello.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by SpencerH
                              Che, that's a shallow argument that I'd say was normally beneath you. This is a sad case all around. Nobody wins from this suffering.
                              just look at all the whacko fundies protesting this... the GOP surely wins by politicizing this issue.
                              Let me ask this, if it was an injured dog or cat that was going to be starved to death would some of the answers here be different?
                              I wouldn't want an animal to suffer any more than I would want a human to suffer. I don't see how this is relevant. Plus, we euthenize animals. We should offer the same choice for humans.
                              To us, it is the BEAST.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by MOBIUS


                                So you could say she ate herself silly?
                                Starved most likely.
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