Get out your hankeys v2.0: Top Cardinal Blasts 'Da Vinci Code' as 'Cheap Lies'

[Zoid]

Originally posted by Giancarlo

The book isn't entirely fictional. But you know what? I'm tired of your strawmans. I'm withdrawing from this thread.

I´m starting to see a trend here, everytime Fez is called on some of the statements he pulls out of his ass, he´s like "idiots, I will not grace you with my prescense anymore. I´m leaving" Great debating skills

And the da Vinci code sucks. Firstly because it´s based on bogus facts and try to pretend they are actual facts. Secondly because Dan Brown is a crappy writer and he has far too many plot twists in the book. In the end you really don´t give a **** about what the grail really is.

[chequita guevara]

These are works of fiction, right?

[Zoid]

But it´s portrayed as a book based on facts. **** the church and their concerns, I´m appaled by the flat out lying by Dan Brown.

[chequita guevara]

If a work of fiction presents itself as based on facts, and someone believes it, knowing that its a work of fiction, whose fault is it? I mean, no one gets upset about the Amittyville Horror.

[Zoid]

But if they don´t know that it´s a work of fiction and think that it´s real? The autor lies because he makes money of it. That´s what I don´t like...

[MikeH]

If you want to see something claiming to be "based on facts" but grossly distorted go and watch a hollywood movie.

[MikeH]

Or, as many people pointed out here, read the bible.

[GePap]

I personally was amazed that I saw so many people with that book in the subways, all the time. Yet, I have never had even the slightest inclination of reading it.

My book spending dollars are better spent getting all the Discworld novels....

[Proteus_MST]

Re: Get out your hankeys v2.0: Top Cardinal Blasts 'Da Vinci Code' as 'Cheap Lies'

Originally posted by DRoseDARs

The central claim of the book, written by American Dan Brown, is that Jesus married Mary Magdalene and had children. The Bible says Jesus never married, was crucified and rose from the dead.

Even if the Book is fiction (and I haven´t read it so far),
how can Bertone say, that the bible claims that Jesus was unmarried and had no children?

The bible doesn´t mention a wife or children of Jesus,
but this of course doesn´t mean that there were not wife or children, just that they (if existent) weren´t mentioned.

I never came across a passage where it explicit says
"Till his death Jesus had no wife and children".

Maybe someone with more knowledge of the NT can point me to a passage where such things are mentioned (if they exist )

[GePap]

Saying Jesus had kids is a HUGE statement with regards to Chrisitian ideology. Jesus is supposedly both man and God. Children of Jesus would trully then be children of God..how does that work?? If desecendents of Jesus take communion, are they eating their ancestor (you know, the bit about transubstantiation?) And why would Jesus spend his last supper (knowing it was that) with his apostles and not even have the wife over??

Not mentioning a wife and kids is a rather huge oversight.

Of course, the book could always have claimed Jesus had an affair with Magdalene and she had kids during that 20 year Gap in jesus' life the bible never mentions. Keep the wife reference out, makes it more plausible.

[MikeH]

The claim in the book is that in those times it would be so unusual for a man Jesus age not to be married that the fact the bible doesn't mention him not being married is telling evidence that he was.

It seems like it's total speculation either way.

[Wezil]

Originally posted by GePap

Not mentioning a wife and kids is a rather huge oversight.

As was leaving out the 13th apostle....

...that 20 year Gap in jesus' life the bible never mentions.

That's bad storytelling.


Thanx to Kevin Smith....

[MikeH]

In those times I think 'having an affair and kids' is much less plausible than 'being married and having kids'.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Originally posted by Kamrat X


And the da Vinci code sucks. Firstly because it´s based on bogus facts and try to pretend they are actual facts. Secondly because Dan Brown is a crappy writer and he has far too many plot twists in the book. In the end you really don´t give a **** about what the grail really is.

Never having read Brown, when I read Da Vinci COde I actually enjoyed the plot twists, knowing full well it was the equivalent of a pulp novel. However upon reading Angels and Demons, I came to teh conclusion the man is a one trick pony. Angels and Demons is essentially the same story with different villains. I knew the outcome 1/3 of the way into the book.

[chequita guevara]

The Gospel of Mary Magdelene hints at Mary and the Lord having something of a relationship.