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  • Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski

    Ok im back up to speed for the moment. Dont go to hard on the ole man some just dont know how to be parents. I am gonna sit back and say nothing bout the banks talk going on I cant say anything bout that anyway. I just want to add if you take a job you feel is beneath you, just because you want a job, You will probably never be happy there.
    Yeah, I guess I should cut him some slack. He´s not a bad person, really. Just extremly annoying these days, but that´s probably because all the alcohol has pickled his brain

    And I have very few jobs I feel are actually beneath me. Working at McD or BK is two, but they wouldn´t want to hire me anyway so... Telemarketing and harassing people on the streets, trying to sell stuff is two other. And I have done both, so I know what I´m talking about. It was very demeaning...

    Other than that I think I can get reasonly comfortable almost anywhere.
    I love being beaten by women - Lorizael

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    • Originally posted by Provost Harrison
      Well I am not so much referring to accountants although the point still applies to a lesser extent. I am not referring to the individuals who work though, I am referring to the nature of the sector they work in.
      Why is accounting less parasitic but still so?
      The teaching profession is not parasitic because it educates children, our future. The medical profession brings people back to health, and as well as this obvious benefit is a great boon to productivity.

      The point is, what does the stockbroker or the investment banker bring to our society that is valuable?
      Stockbrockers and investment bankers, as well as other workers in the financial sector perform services which are valuable to people. Is the taxicab driver a parasite, because he gives people rides when they could otherwise walk? Is the cashier a parasite who takes people's money and hands out tickets? Of course not becuase they provide a benefit to people with the work that they perform. True teachers and medical professionals provide a lasting benefit, but it's still just a benefit, not better no worse than other workers.

      That being said workers in the financial sector do improve productivity, especially accountants. They provide information to govt, managers, investors, and even employees about the organization that they work for that allows those people to make better decisions which improves productivity and overall value as much as any other job.
      The sector is an artifact of the capitalist system, important for it to function (to an extent) but isn't a valuable occupation for society in itself. And as they seem to make wealth off of other peoples work by manipulation of numbers basically, it is parasitic.
      Every job is important to keep the capitalist system functioning. I don't care what job you do, the system depends on it.
      And as they seem to make wealth off of other peoples work by manipulation of numbers basically, it is parasitic.
      Ummm.... No they don't. They make money from their own work. A capitalist makes money from other people's work. That is parasitic. Why do you think working in the financial system is the same thing. It's not about manipulating numbers. That is a select few criminals who do that. Honest accountants provide usefull honest information.
      "As far as volatility is concerned I don't really know what you mean by that."

      Volatile...look at the nature of the market, busts and booms and can be affected by the whim of a few...that is volatility.
      Ok. Well there are some stockbrockers who cause that, but you can't label all financial sector workers parasites just because some of them are.
      I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
      - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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      • So what do investment bankers and stockbrokers do that is not an inherent part of a capitalist system and that is so productive? I certainly don't feel they can explain what their output is to me is remotely obvious or useful.

        And to those you can add marketing or advertising...completely parasitic too.
        Speaking of Erith:

        "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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        • Originally posted by Provost Harrison


          And to those you can add marketing or advertising...completely parasitic too.

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          • And to those you can add marketing or advertising...completely parasitic too.
            beware teh Ming!
            To us, it is the BEAST.

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            • Not even Ming could deny his chosen career path is, in the grand scheme of things, a waste of time and money
              Speaking of Erith:

              "It's not twinned with anywhere, but it does have a suicide pact with Dagenham" - Linda Smith

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              • Originally posted by Provost Harrison
                Not even Ming could deny his chosen career path is, in the grand scheme of things, a waste of time and money
                Not *his* time or *his* money, he's making money.

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                • I wish I was paid that much to do nothing.

                  I would start a WW1 Battleship website for the other 40 people on earth who care about WW1 battleships.
                  Only feebs vote.

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                  • Originally posted by Space05us
                    I've been unemployed for 7 months now. Im going ****ing looney.
                    Lightweight. I know some guy who was out of a job for 18 months. Another one for a staggering 3 1/2 years.
                    (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
                    (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
                    (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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                    • I wont be unemplyeed for that long. I might even go back to school. I was looking into crime scene investigation that looks like a fun job.
                      When you find yourself arguing with an idiot, you might want to rethink who the idiot really is.
                      "It can't rain all the time"-Eric Draven
                      Being dyslexic is hard work. I don't even try anymore.

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                      • But I don´t know about about the child thing. I don´t think children should be used as a means of self fullfillment. If you procreate you should want it, you should want all the hassle that it is raising a child. I don´t want that, I have no wish to procreate and I don´t want the responsibility that a child is. Maybe later, but not now. EDIT: Besides, I don´t want to **** up their childhood as my dad ****ed up mine. He is a whining alcoholic that never wanted kids.


                        Ugh, well, I guess what really matters is whether you like children.

                        In that case, my advice to you is to:

                        a) volunteer to working with children for a short while.
                        b) don't be a paedophile.
                        urgh.NSFW

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                        • Originally posted by Provost Harrison
                          So what do investment bankers and stockbrokers do that is not an inherent part of a capitalist system and that is so productive? I certainly don't feel they can explain what their output is to me is remotely obvious or useful.

                          And to those you can add marketing or advertising...completely parasitic too.
                          Basically they're knowledge workers. People need to utilize their knowledge and they pay for it. They're very important to the modern economy. Maybe one day they won't be needed, but for now they are.
                          I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                          - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                          • Originally posted by Kidicious
                            Basically they're knowledge workers. People need to utilize their knowledge and they pay for it. They're very important to the modern economy. Maybe one day they won't be needed, but for now they are.
                            Stockbrokers are just some kind of middleman. In fact, so are banks...
                            (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
                            (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
                            (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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                            • Banks actually do something valuable. They get capital into the hands of people who can best use it or at least into the hands of people who claim they will use it productively.
                              Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                              • Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski
                                I wont be unemplyeed for that long. I might even go back to school. I was looking into crime scene investigation that looks like a fun job.
                                CSI
                                I love being beaten by women - Lorizael

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