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  • Gay Marriages: San Francisco California Superior Court Ruling

    Here is the actual court order on same-sex marriage. Be warned: this PDF file is 27 pages long.....but it makes for some good reading just the same.

    For those who do not want to read through 27 pages of legal jargon....basically, The Superior Court has ruled that marriage being strictly limited to a man and a woman is against the California Constitution.

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    To us, it is the BEAST.

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    • #3
      Well we have to get the California State Supreme Court to rule on this... cause the Superior Court could be overrided..
      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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      • #4
        True Fez, the Supremes could reverse the trial court. But it'll be hard to argue around the violation of the equal protections clause. Massachusettes' Supreme Court couldn't do it.

        Here in California, there's alsready a push to get an initiative on the ballot this November, this one to amend the Constitution to ban gay marriages. It's going to be a weird election...no one's running for anything...just initiatives.

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        • #5
          I certainly want this to stick! No doubt about it. But I want to hold off any judgement until it sticks.
          For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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          • #6
            Fez (sorry, Giancarlo), if you haven't downloaded the PDF file yet - I suggest you do and read though it. It really makes it hard for the CA Supreme Court to over-rule the CA Superior Court's findings.....The battle should prove very interesting to say the least.
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            "If God, as they say, is homophobic, I wouldn't worship that God." - Archbishop Desmond Tutu
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Wittlich
              Fez (sorry, Giancarlo), if you haven't downloaded the PDF file yet - I suggest you do and read though it. It really makes it hard for the CA Supreme Court to over-rule the CA Superior Court's findings.....The battle should prove very interesting to say the least.
              Yes, but not impossible. I'm just not going to keep my hopes up.. just to find them dashed by the Supreme court or by the initiatives that are on the election.
              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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              • #8
                Great, more fuel for the fire for gay-marriage opponents. They'll probably get gay marriage bans in several other states out of this...
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
                  Great, more fuel for the fire for gay-marriage opponents. They'll probably get gay marriage bans in several other states out of this...
                  No they won't, because those on the side of freedom will eventually prevail.
                  For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                  • #10
                    "It's going to be a weird election...no one's running for anything...just initiatives"

                    California democracy is kewl. I wish we had it here in Canada.
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                    • #11
                      California democracy is the reason California is in the mess it is.
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                      • #12
                        Says someone who doesn't live here.
                        We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Seeker
                          "It's going to be a weird election...no one's running for anything...just initiatives"

                          California democracy is kewl. I wish we had it here in Canada.


                          No one runs for anything in Canada either, but for entirely different reasons.
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                          • #14
                            It's good and bad. Everyone likes to be able to vote on things directly, and it is certainly more democratic, but a lot of our current financial trouble has resulted from the budget being carved up by voter initiatives until there's actually very little left for the state government to work with.

                            I like the system, but there should be some sort of cap on what proportion of the state budget the voters can affect directly, so we don't go overboard.
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                            • #15
                              To be fair the state goverment repeatedly proved they were to partisan and/or incompetant to be trusted with the funds. They kept cutting education to pay for junk special interest programs so voters passed a law saying 40% of income must be spent on education. In order to save those pet projects the politicians continually raised property taxes until they were through the roof so voters passed a law which capped property taxes at a certain percentage and made it require a 2/3 majority in order to raise taxes.

                              Currently the government spends to much because politicians get reelected by acting like the candy man to every special interest they can find (look how Grey Davis pandered to the Prison Guard's union by tripling their salaries). The problem seems clear to me; the state house has once again proven it can't be trusted so we need to make it damn hard for them to borrow money. Enter a balanced budget amendment.
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