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  • #31
    Democracy if (and only if) it agrees with me
    KH FOR OWNER!
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    • #32
      Originally posted by chegitz guevara
      We should allow exploratory drilling for oil in the homes of GOP voters.
      Believe it or not, this is allowed already.
      I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Sava
        imran is siding with the repukes
        It's probably because I am one . I have no problem with drilling in ANWR.
        “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
        - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
          Democracy if (and only if) it agrees with me
          Democracy

          it's only the fairest, as of yet, way to choose leaders... but everything should not just be put up to a vote.

          but I suspect the dopes in alaska are evil and get boners from destroying the environment just like you and your repuke ilk
          To us, it is the BEAST.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
            There is no alternative to oil at this time. I prefer to make decisions based on how things are, not how we might want them to be...
            Hence my Manhattan Project/Apollo Program analogy. I'm suggesting that we could have an alternative in a relatively short period of time if we made having such an alternative a national priority. Instead, our only priority is "more oil," which will mean more wilderness destruction, more undesireable alliances, and more dubious military adventures for years to come. We can do better than that.
            "I have as much authority as the pope. I just don't have as many people who believe it." — George Carlin

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui


              It's probably because I am one . I have no problem with drilling in ANWR.
              Of course, your a Neo-Con extraordinare.

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              • #37
                actually, I changed my mind... I don't give a **** about anwr... let the repukes rape the earth... more bad karma for them
                To us, it is the BEAST.

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                • #38
                  I'm suggesting that we could have an alternative in a relatively short period of time
                  FYI, we already have such alternatives. They are just politically unacceptable in our NIMBY culture.
                  I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Odin
                    Of course, your a Neo-Con extraordinare.
                    There are socialist neo-conservatives as well.
                    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                    - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                    • #40
                      Hence my Manhattan Project/Apollo Program analogy. I'm suggesting that we could have an alternative in a relatively short period of time if we made having such an alternative a national priority.


                      And I'm saying such a scenario is fantasy. It could be true. Then again, it could not. Either way, when making a decision on whether or not to allow oil exploration in ANWR, I would prefer to leave speculation about the development of future fuel technologies out of the equation...
                      KH FOR OWNER!
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                      • #41
                        Interestingly enough, I ran into an article a month or so ago that talked about how the Neo-cons (and I use this term precisely, not to refer to anyone who voted for Bush or anyone else I don't like) have been looking at ways to use less oil and to investigate alternatives to oil. The gist was that we would be denying a major market to the ME dictatorships, and hence force a wave of democratic revolutions. Perhaps this will end up being the impetous necessary to actually devote serious resources to alternative energy sources.
                        "Remember, there's good stuff in American culture, too. It's just that by "good stuff" we mean "attacking the French," and Germany's been doing that for ages now, so, well, where does that leave us?" - Elok

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by DanS


                          FYI, we already have such alternatives. They are just politically unacceptable in our NIMBY culture.
                          Actually, I think THAT it has less to do with our NIMBY culture than it is to do with Three-Mile Island. Try to buld a nuclear power plant and you'll get a bunch of eco-nuts exaggerating the dangers of nuclear power. Hell, we are such a scientifically ignorant society that you could get people to ban water if you called it by it's chemical name (dihydrogen monoxide).

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Rufus T. Firefly
                            It took us 4 years to go from zero to the creation of the first atomic bomb.

                            It took us 9 years to go from a space program that was a joke to one that put a man on the moon.

                            We're America, dammit! I can't believe we can't come up with an alternative to oil. We're just not trying, or not trying hard enough.
                            It's entirely possible the laws of phsyics just won't allow us to get energy sources as cheap and convenient (in liquid form) as oil/gasoline.

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                            • #44
                              Why does anyone care about ANWR, other than oil? For Chrissakes, oil is more important than a few animals. Animals are a renewable "resource", oil, not so much
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                              • #45
                                canada has oodles of oil, it just isnt economically viable to get it...yet... i say we drain the ME first

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