Is roboticisation of jobs ethical ?

[Whoha]

Originally posted by Azazel
and why are these deals poorly negotiated?

Reagan's model of forcing open foreign markets in return for opening ours is clearly superior to the current opening our market and letting them keep theirs closed.

[Az]

picking them by hand vs driving a machine.

There is a produce-picking machine? That's news to me!

[Flandrien]

Yes, but the tomatoes have to picked when they are still green.

[Whoha]

capital improvements,driving a machine,meh, the fact of the matter is that mechanizing agriculture has allowed for a lot fewer people to do a lot more(agricultural products have inelastic demand vs manufacturing goods which have elastic demand), and learn skill sets other then picking produce.

[Az]

Reagan's model of forcing open foreign markets in return for opening ours is clearly superior to the current opening our market and letting them keep theirs closed.

Who's market is closed, exactly?

[Whoha]

On second thought, check this bastard out:http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000097022335/

[Az]

Kick ass.

Machined produce picking is the last agricultural frontier.

THIS RULES.

Hopefully, we'll see machine pickers of all fruit and veggies.

[Dis]

Originally posted by Azazel
Kick ass.

Machined produce picking is the last agricultural frontier.

THIS RULES.

Hopefully, we'll see machine pickers of all fruit and veggies.

I'd like to see one for grapes. So grape juice isn't so damned expensive. (I like grape juice)

[Whoha]

Originally posted by Azazel

Reagan's model of forcing open foreign markets in return for opening ours is clearly superior to the current opening our market and letting them keep theirs closed.

Who's market is closed, exactly?

What do you want an example of? A subsidy protecting a business like airbus? A non-tariff-barrier preventing a product from entering a market like the requirement Japan had that if someone wanted to buy a "heavy-engine" motorcycle, he had to be able to ride it across a tight beam(they dropped this one once their producers caught up in the technology, same exact thing I predict will happen with GM crops)? an outright poorly negotiated trade deal where we agree to only tariff Chinese cars at 2.5%, but they can tariff ours at 25%?

[Dr Strangelove]

Is it ethical to take jobs from the working class people of one nation and give them to the working class people of another? If you say yes I'm sure I can find some places where you can defend your belief in spirited debate, but before you go I'd advise you to don some Kevlar underwear first.

The tomato picker was designed as our way of telling Cesar Chavez and his unionized farm workers how much we love them.

[Az]

What do you want an example of? A subsidy protecting a business like airbus? A non-tariff-barrier preventing a product from entering a market like the requirement Japan had that if someone wanted to buy a "heavy-engine" motorcycle, he had to be able to ride it across a tight beam(they dropped this one once their producers caught up in the technology, same exact thing I predict will happen with GM crops)? an outright poorly negotiated trade deal where we agree to only tariff Chinese cars at 2.5%, but they can tariff ours at 25%?

You're being way too america-specific here. We're talking about general issues for 1st world countries.

[Whoha]

Hmm, well Europe runs a net trade surplus so they aren't losing out on that end, they are deciding to work less 35 hour work weeks,etc which is their call. They are trying to back out of that, but we'll see how well that goes.

China and Russia had a bunch of state supported stuff that the market just would not support, nothing you can do there.

[Az]

That's threadjacking, me thinks.

[Whoha]

I'll concede that their problems are not trade related, but neither are they having problems with runaway technology.

[Sandman]

Humanoid robots are not high on my practical technology list. My feeling is that they'll never become a serious link in the economic chain.