Is roboticisation of jobs ethical ?

[Az]

My feeling is that when we will known how to build AI sufficiently "human", and build humanoid , we'll also know how transfer our entity from our brain. Both are sufficiently far in the future, as not to be relevant to our discussion.

However, non-humoid robots that excel at tasks like farming manufacturing, and more computerized offices can render many human jobs obsolete.

[St Leo]

Originally posted by Whoha
Reagan's model of forcing open foreign markets in return for opening ours is clearly superior to the current opening our market and letting them keep theirs closed.

???

From the Canadian perspective, your model is to force open our market while keeping yours closed.

[St Leo]

Originally posted by Sandman
Humanoid robots are not high on my practical technology list. My feeling is that they'll never become a serious link in the economic chain.

True, but even in the drive-thru industry we do not require humanoid robots. Other body plans are superior for menial labour.

Humans are generalists. Industrial robots are specialists.

[Dr Strangelove]

I'd like to think that someday robots will do the things that people won't do, like sorting out recycleable trash or taking decent care of eldely people.

[Jaguar]

Poor lonely elderly people. Only Robots for friends.

[St Leo]

We must do the humane thing. We must eat the elderly.

[Whoha]

Originally posted by St Leo
???

From the Canadian perspective, your model is to force open our market while keeping yours closed.

if only that were the truth we could have kept all of your cattle out of our market(thus preventing the sneak attack mad cow), instead of merely banning the brain eating ones.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Seeker
The problem with automation is that you must inevitably increase welfare spending as time goes on.

No.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Odin



Libertarians are idiots who don't know human nature.

Please tell me you didn't actually fall for that. My faith in the basic intelligence of humanity would be destroyed... oh wait...

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Ted Striker
Like I said, here in the US, CEOs make 300 times more than their average line worker.

You sure it's 300? Last I read it's 1000, up from something like 30 a couple of decades back.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Whoha
What do you want an example of? A subsidy protecting a business like airbus? A non-tariff-barrier preventing a product from entering a market like the requirement Japan had that if someone wanted to buy a "heavy-engine" motorcycle, he had to be able to ride it across a tight beam(they dropped this one once their producers caught up in the technology, same exact thing I predict will happen with GM crops)? an outright poorly negotiated trade deal where we agree to only tariff Chinese cars at 2.5%, but they can tariff ours at 25%?

What are you talking about? The US has been trying very hard to keep its markets closed. Previous efforts include stiff tariff on steel, furniture, even stockings.

[Whoha]

US steel imports actually went up during the steel tariffs. do you want to know why? because they were designed to combat dumping, and countries we already had agreements with such as "Canada, Israel, Jordan and Mexico - and developing countries which export only limited amounts of steel to the United States" were exempted from the tariff.

http://www.china.org.cn/english/MATERIAL/31888.htm

And if you are talking about the multi-fiber agreement, that was so that Bush and Co. could continue to parrot the line that free trade was to aide poor developing countries instead of giving a singular producer the entire market.

http://www.finfacts.com/irelandbusinessnews/publish/article_1000793.shtml

and to try and tie this to the thread at hand, robots should be designed that will negotiate our trade policy.

[Ted Striker]

stockings

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Whoha
US steel imports actually went up during the steel tariffs. do you want to know why? because they were designed to combat dumping

It's quite a convenient excuse, don't you think? Somehow foreign imports are found to be guilty of dumping in areas where US companies fail to compete. Or rather, in areas where US companies and/or big unions have political clout.

[Whoha]

US imports went up during the period, it didn't help them.